Rally Guanajuato Mexico 2013

Last day will be very interesting from altitude differences point of view, especially the first 54kms long with ups and downs, also second with great downhill from 5th km to the 22nd on the end

Guanajuatito 2150, 2000, 2601, 2150, 2570, 2299m
Derramadero 2350, 2457, 1869m

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Originally Posted by oyunbozan

i never believe big car manufacturers loose money and can't afford sporting. considering how many cars are sold by PSA or BMW or ford, the profit they make is so huge, WRC can only be a hobby for them. i don't count F1 into "sporting" it is a show.

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Ford and BMW are making a profit - PSA aren't (see link to their 2012 financial results). Anyway, motorsport is a choice and if BMW and/or Ford chose to leave the WRC, it's because there are no benefits from it in the economical enviroment they are in. After all, they know better than you what is the right strategy for their brand.

But I do agree that DTM is crap and I have never understod why BMW often run away from proper competition and only do these second or third calls series.

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Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1

Ogier given back the 40seconds from Rally Mexico organizers after the closed gate on stage. Classified as winning the stage.

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I don't like this. Such things happen in rallying; they shouldn't, but they do. No need to give time credits.

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Is there any link to watch some live footage today?

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

I don't like this. Such things happen in rallying; they shouldn't, but they do. No need to give time credits.

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Sorry, but I disagree. The conditions should be equal for everyone and if there's a problem with the stage, it's just fair to give back the crew the lost time.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

I don't like this. Such things happen in rallying; they shouldn't, but they do. No need to give time credits.

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My thought is it discourages future attempts to interfere with the drivers. If doing so achieves nothing, as the time is given back, then hopefully it happens less often.

I think there is an assumption it was a deliberate attempt to slow Ogier, if it had happened to Neuville at 7.5 seconds behind Mikko a lot of people would be saying it was very unfair too.

PS it was probably lucky in a way it did happen, else we would have had Ogier in Mikko's puncture dust and very upset lol

I would say that it is not fair that he got whole 40 seconds back. More fair would be the same time with stage winner or something. It does not sound good that you win a stage while co-driver opens the gate twice etc.

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Originally Posted by bluuford

I would say that it is not fair that he got whole 40 seconds back. More fair would be the same time with stage winner or something. It does not sound good that you win a stage while co-driver opens the gate twice etc.

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Excuse me, but he didn't get the time back out of nowhere. The marshals looked at his time prior to the stop and how much he did loose while opening the gate. If it was 40 seconds, it's just fair he got that amount back, don't you think?

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Originally Posted by smsgrafica

Sorry, but I disagree. The conditions should be equal for everyone and if there's a problem with the stage, it's just fair to give back the crew the lost time.

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But the next thing you know they'll be giving the time back for all sorts of stuff — a puncture sustained because the preceding car threw a large stone onto the stage, for instance. Rallying did without such things for years and it can do without them now.