GT Class

Above all, RGT is one more evidence of the current FIA practice of restraining rally car building to manus official tuners. It's true they've allowed private tuners to homologate GT cars, but the system is too hard and expensive, that's why it failled.

I've reed the previous pro and cons remarks and like some of you I found some current GT's too bulky and overpowered for rally (I got 'traumatized' by JP Fontes Aston Martin V12 portuguese outings), but also as many says there's need for more diversity in rallysport.

With proper regs (limited cubic capacity, external dimensions, overall weight, etc) and easier homologation processes, GT cars as the Cayman, the 4C or the new A120 could become suitable alternatives in those countries that got all tarmac rally series. They even doesn't need to be winning champs machines, as they are entertaining enought to drive (and watch) and can get reasonable runing costs (Vallejo spend half of an R5 budget with his 911, during Spanish championship).

Btw, some GT drivers has proven that they aren't only straight fast:https://youtu.be/1Za0gkw3tSI?t=67

What program will Pech do now? It seems RGT cup is already death..

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He will drive in CZ for sure and the rest? We'll see but if R-GT cup is really dead than I see no reason to spend money for international homologation.

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Originally Posted by Mirek

Andy, I think that You're seeking the main problem where it isn't. The main issue is that GT manufacturers are not interested in rallying at all. Even Porsche as a company isn't.

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100% agree. I was surpried that even in Germany, where Zeltner was 2014 & 2015 rally champion, his title was nowhere mentioned even in the Porsche Internal communication means (I'm professionally connected to Porsche brand).....no word in the Internal Magazine, internet connection....nothing, nada, niente, nič....Just fuc*#k Le-Mans.....

I think FIA strangled the GT-cup before it had begun, with their cars restrictions.
Why can't the Porsche be allowed to breathe freely?

A lot would be possible if there were manufacturers behind the negotiations with FIA but since those are not interested there is no-one strong enough to push on FIA.

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Originally Posted by Lundefaret

I think FIA strangled the GT-cup before it had begun, with their cars restrictions.
Why can't the Porsche be allowed to breathe freely?

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Exactly, they shouldn't be hampered. Ruben Zeltner explained that the 911 (997)GT3 Cup car with the restrictor is an uninteresting car to race with it, that way he moved to H-class (996 model with sequential gearbox, without restriction).

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Originally Posted by Lundefaret

I think FIA strangled the GT-cup before it had begun, with their cars restrictions.
Why can't the Porsche be allowed to breathe freely?

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yes the problem was that they were underpowered...

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Originally Posted by Ucci

Exactly, they shouldn't be hampered. Ruben Zeltner explained that the 911 (997)GT3 Cup car with the restrictor is an uninteresting car to race with it, that way he moved to H-class (996 model with sequential gearbox, without restriction).

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rallies always had restrictions at every class/category.At tyres width,at power via restrictors.They can rent a r5 and compete if they find the 911 underpowered.

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Originally Posted by Ucci

Ruben Zeltner explained that the 911 (997)GT3 Cup car with the restrictor is an uninteresting car to race with it, that way he moved to H-class (996 model with sequential gearbox, without restriction).

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Gr. H is without restrictor but for sure with restrictions. Estimate 3.6L 420 hp and 1300 kg so that will be no monster at all.