WRC-Neste Oil Rally Finland 2012

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Originally Posted by Plan9

My disappointment of the rally is Ketomaa. He has not been on the pace this rally and in NZ he was quite disappointing. Did not expect to see Atko faster than him

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There is one explanation: DMAC

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Originally Posted by A.F.F.

The truth hurts eh?

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yes ... Laaaaal...

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Originally Posted by cali

Lasse Lampi and Esapekka Lappi. Different family names.

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true, my mistake. last seen Lasse mentioned a long time ago.

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Originally Posted by amilk

I think it's time be realistic when peoples are claiming to put back Atko to manu seat. Simply not quick enough here and was not quick in Mexico (I know private etc but still)

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I disagree. He's going fairly well in a car that he has relatively no seat time in.

im Enjoying Lappi smelling Ogiers Back... lol that is a nice fight there. whats up with latvala.. i guess he is taking it easy waiting for the other stages

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

yes ... Laaaaal...

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Please enlighten me what is so hilarious with my post?

Let me first bend it to you from barbwire. Lappi has started rallying 2009. Before that he was karting and rally sprinting. This is his first year with 4wd machinery. This NORF is his first or second NORF, maybe someone can clarify it. In Finnish national rallies, the stages of NORF is not used, especially in the summer time.

I counted that this is Ogier's fifth NORF. Surely, with the math of sheep herder, you must realize that Ogier has more experience of these stages than Lappi ??

Anyway, enough of you, Lappi is nowhere near a complete rally driver and surely his pace won't be this good in foreign rallies to him BUT to be in par with Ogier here, is very promising and will be a boost to his selfconfidence for the future. I'm very happy that we have such a talent in making and maybe Lappi will be a part of WRC stuff in the future. :)

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Originally Posted by andyone

whats up with latvala.. i guess he is taking it easy waiting for the other stages

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In the interviews he has said he has tried everything so far, from aggressive to more tidy style, so far without a result. On the local rally radio they mentioned that they won´t give Latvala any splits in the next few stages, so that he can concentrate purely on the driving. Playstation era, eh.

Latvala needs a new setup for his brain......

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Originally Posted by A.F.F.

Please enlighten me what is so hilarious with my post?

Let me first bend it to you from barbwire. Lappi has started rallying 2009. Before that he was karting and rally sprinting. This is his first year with 4wd machinery. This NORF is his first or second NORF, maybe someone can clarify it. In Finnish national rallies, the stages of NORF is not used, especially in the summer time.

I counted that this is Ogier's fifth NORF. Surely, with the math of sheep herder, you must realize that Ogier has more experience of these stages than Lappi ??

Anyway, enough of you, Lappi is nowhere near a complete rally driver and surely his pace won't be this good in foreign rallies to him BUT to be in par with Ogier here, is very promising and will be a boost to his selfconfidence for the future. I'm very happy that we have such a talent in making and maybe Lappi will be a part of WRC stuff in the future. :)

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so in other words you are saying that a professional rally driver who is considered a future finnish star (No 3478) hasn't practised the worlds most famous stages all these years ??? i am not saying he did illegal recce but i really doubt he has not run these stages a million times before or at least more times than Ogier.... and even if he did not... the stages in finland are so unique that it is not really necessary to do the stages themselves to learn them....

Of course it is neccassery to do them to learn them, there is NOWHERE like Finland, so how are you meant to be quick on stages that you have never driven anything like before?!

I am a member of the Nicky Grist Young Co-Driver Academy here in the UK and spent a day with Nicky and John MaCrone 2 weeks ago, Nicky was telling us stories of how he did the rally with Juha Kankkunen and he was reading the notes, but Juha didnt need them because he knew the roads and the cuts etc. he also told us of stories of how they did 1 recce pass and then went playing golf while everyone else carried on recceimng, experience (and seat time) are everything in world rallying!