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25th November 2011, 05:13
anthonyvop

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Originally Posted by ioan

Impossible, the employee can not advance his personal life while continuously working harder for you.

Maybe you can't but people smarter than you can.
25th November 2011, 05:17
anthonyvop

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Originally Posted by Rollo

Obama probably also went to a private school as well didn't he?

Yes he did...With an Academic scholarship. Not because of any family wealth or connections. So I still maintain that anyone can be President of the United States.
25th November 2011, 05:23
555-04Q2

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

No, it's not but why is it so hard to grasp the fact that more equal countries have higher social mobility meaning that hard & smart work is more likely to be rewarded than at present.

At the moment inequality in society is increasing.

Why do you appear to be so opposed to working towards a more equal society when the evidence says we would all benefit?

I don't have any problem with an equal society at all if people contribute positively. I am oppossed to just handing over more to lazy people who are disrupting our societies with protests instead of working to improve our society and/or their positions. Nothing in life is easy, it takes hard work and perseverance, that's just the way it is. Protesting about it will not change it, it just puts you another day behind those that bother to improve themselves. You have to have poor people and rich people, that is the driving force in our society that motivates one to improve. Millions of people who bother to try come from poor/oppressed to rich/liberated because they said, "bugger this, I want to improve my life". They didn't do it by standing in a park shouting, "this aint fair".
25th November 2011, 05:25
555-04Q2

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Originally Posted by ioan

Impossible, the employee can not advance his personal life while continuously working harder for you.

I managed to do it. And it was not easy! Believe me, it sucked, but I did it. So what's the excuse now :)
25th November 2011, 05:26
555-04Q2

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

That is a defeatist ideal supported by leftist policies to control the masses. No matter how bleak you predicament you have a chance to better your life.

Very good post :up:
25th November 2011, 05:28
555-04Q2

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Originally Posted by ioan

Ben was realistic, not everyone can become an employer cause then there will be no more employees, thus no one will be an employer anymore. Oh well...

Correct, not everyone can become an employer. But as I mentioned in an earlier post, if someone is not happy with their present situation they can either leave for greaner pastures or suck it up and stop moaning. The choice is the individuals.
25th November 2011, 05:34
555-04Q2

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Originally Posted by Rollo

Obama probably also went to a private school as well didn't he?

You may recall that during the 2004 presidential campaign that John Kerry was running against W. Kerry is part of the Forbes family and married to Teresa Heinz. During the campaign I remember that someone said that if elected Kerry would continue the trend that if adjusted for inflation, he would have been the 9th consecutive president to have been the richest president from private wealth in history. Obama bucks the trend but he still didn't start on the bottom rung did he?

Your claim that American can still become President simply isn't true. I very much doubt that the likes of a Haberdasher will ever be president ever again. Maybe once upon a time past but not anymore.

Hear hear :up:

We don't have a "British Dream" over here. And this isn't because we lack any sort of morale purpose, or because we haven't got a sense of guide and destiny taking us towards a better tomorrow.
No. We British don't have a "Dream". Because we're awake.
- Al Murray, Pub Landlord

When the German war machine was flying over Britain to bomb the cr@p out of it during the second world war, did the British say "...well we are f@#$*# so lets go home", or did they do something about it? Even when all hope seems lost, there is a way if there is a will.
25th November 2011, 07:15
Bob Riebe

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

When right-wingers who believe in a free market complain about immigration, now that IS hypocrisy in my book.

They do not and never have.
They complain about illegal aliens.
I think you are smart enough to know the difference.
25th November 2011, 07:31
Bob Riebe

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Please explain why. The fact that your father earned less than the average does not necessarily prove that the average is wrong. Maybe you might like to explain your alternative view of how the term 'average' works.

Let us put it this way son.

I started working in the late sixties. I knew what average wages were paid to the absolute vast majority of hourly U.S. workers. (We were taught those things in school back then. Our teachers said if you want to work in a factory and get rich, work in Detroit)

They had rejected a union. they had tried for a short time, and it was known (and protested by the union that their pay was what it was just to keep the union out) they received higher than average pay, JUST to keep the union out.

For anyone, anyone who is not simply too young to know, to not know that people were not paid almost twenty dollars an hour in 1965, or that that amount could even BE ANYWHERE NEAR the average.
That person is either a moron, or has serious mental health problems.
25th November 2011, 08:28
ArrowsFA1

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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2

I don't have any problem with an equal society at all if people contribute positively.

:up:

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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2

I am oppossed to just handing over more to lazy people who are disrupting our societies with protests instead of working to improve our society and/or their positions.

That makes a very big assumption that those protesting at what they perceive to be an injustice are all lazy. Also, as has already been pointed out, as inequality increases the oppotunities for people to improve their positions declines.

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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2

Nothing in life is easy, it takes hard work and perseverance, that's just the way it is.

:up:

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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2

Protesting about it will not change it, it just puts you another day behind those that bother to improve themselves.

So the movements personified by the likes of Ghandi, Martin Luther King and Nelson Mandela shouldn't have protested? They should have just tried to improve themselves as individuals and left other individuals to try to do the same? Every man for himself?

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