Well... he cannot get worse, thats a certainty...Quote:
Originally Posted by Audimadgeoff
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Well... he cannot get worse, thats a certainty...Quote:
Originally Posted by Audimadgeoff
I hope you say the same in the next Ford rally win.Quote:
Originally Posted by ste898
I´m sure he doesn´t...he would like to have real competition then the one he has.Quote:
ste898
I can see why so many people have little interest in WRC its a total joke now..I wonder if it will ever be great again like the 80's and 90's I doubt it very much......
What exactly did Loeb win this weekend? A event with only 20 stages and no opposition for most of the event oh yes he must feel great!!!
In this weekend won, not only Loeb+skills, but also Citroën+reability.
Ford lost everything.
In the couple of years ago, there was the lucky and the "special" tyres from BF to Citroën. Now WRC is dead. WRC will be alive again when your brand/pilot win again.
Are you tired about S.Loeb? Blame the competition, not the best ones.
I'm not usually one to defend the modern WRC, but I think we need to get things into perspective here. Have a look at the results on RallyBase for Argentine rallies going back to the early 1980s — http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?ty...&rallytype=Arg. The range of leading contenders every time was deeply unimpressive, with one or more works teams not even making the trip each year. It used to be a very poorly supported event. At least it now gets what passes for a full works entry. As for the level of competition, well, what do we expect in 2008?
I can't agree with that. I don't 'support' any team or driver over all the rest, and I think the WRC in its current form is dying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Isthmus
Yes you're right, the dominance of one driver doesn't make the WRC boring but the lack of competition combined with one driver winning almost every rally (sometimes every stage of a rally) does.
When Makinen dominated there was atleast Sainz, McRae, Kankkunen, Auriol but now that Gronholm is gone Loeb's biggest opponent is his own mistakes and we all know Loeb does not make mistakes so quickly.
Looking back in history, it would be hard to describe this result as "boring" in relation to 30 years of WRC results.
The end result was nothing spectacular to the "No one gets near Loeb...,so it's boring" brigade, but that hardly pays any respect to the results for the others.
How gutted will Latvala and Hirvonnen be. Some small mistakes stole their rally away, and Mikko was going very well. Solberg must be gutted after sitting in a comfortable second, driving a car that was no good last season and is running well now, only to have it stolen by a few loose electrons.
Loeb had to work his butt off to get to where he was, and then hold it. It was no picnic for him at all.
Atkinson running so well in second, lost it until luck intervened.
I don't know how it could be boring to all the couch potatoes. I thought it was a great and hard rally. Life must be tough at the glowing end of a computer screen :-)
Congratulations to Loeb, Atkinson and Sordo, and to Rautenbach who must be feeling pretty good today. If the others fail to finish and you do finish, then the points and satisfaction are still yours.
True. Thing is I only posted that because one of the Rautenbach fans sent me a stupid PM trying to rub my face in the ****. At the end of the day in any other rally Conrad probably wouldn't have scored a point based on his performance this weekend. On the positive side he finished and got the experience he's after :up: Best thing would be if Bob gets the boot today as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Audimadgeoff
I think that rallying just does not translate from a sport where you stand in a forest getting rained on and showered with **** to a sport where you can "be there" online and people have unrealistic expectations of it as a sport to follow online. I do think the WRC needs to become a sport which you can follow live online with eye in the sky type coverage as well as having proper coverage on the TV for those who don't want to follow in front of a PC.Quote:
Originally Posted by bowler
The problem is that this result could happen anywhere and not just in Argentina. Back a few years years ago on a long haul event like Rally Australia you could see 15 works cars on the entry list.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
http://rallybase.nl/index.php?type=result&rallyid=321
The top 6 pretty much reads like a who's who of rallying in the 15 years or so. Notice that Antony Warmbold is 14th and not 4th like Conrad is today. But I guess I am merely pointing out the blindingly obvious because the bottom has pretty much fallen out of the WRC since the 3rd driver rule was dropped and we went down to 2 car teams and group N cars and also rans started getting points in rallies when it used to be the case where you'd have to be a works driver with skill and a good car under you to get points.
I am of the opinion that if the FIA thinks that S2000+ on it's own will take the WRC back to it's glory days then they're in for a nasty surprise.
Rautenbach has fans?