[WRC] News & rumours (part II)

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Originally Posted by Motorsportfun

IMHO they'll want you dead, if such a thing would happen! :D

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there is a looong line for that....

I do not care what organisers and spectators think....i care about what is the proper thing to do in my opinion. If getting rid of tourists makes organisers of WRC events angry so be it the candidates are numerous to take their place. And if spectators who value numbers above quality leave the sport then its going to be a better place for sure.

As i said...there is a place for everyone who thinks he is a rally driver...

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Originally Posted by danon

Everybody is entitled to have their chance and try to reach the top.

If he/she/it - fails, he/she/it - gives up. As simple as that.

A process, called - Natural Selection.

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not when it comes to rallying unfortunately...in EVERY other sport/motosport must prove yourself to reach he top, and if you fail at the top then "they quit" you....in the WRC you just spend more money (like slowson).

And that is where my objection lies...we need to have standards at the TOP of the sport.

As I said earlier, they shouldn't have allowed teams like Monster WRT or Brazil WRT (and a few more) be registered as manufacturers, and with that pretend like they're serious competitors. But if they want to compete in WRC events, let them. It's been like that since its incarnation, and only now some people suddenly see it as a problem.

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Originally Posted by tommeke_B

Anyone who judges that less competitors (no matter how good or bad they are) means a better competition, is an idiot...

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Anybody not impressed with Raikonenenen's spped right out of the gate in the "old" cars and his good transition to the "new' 1.6 cars is an idiot..

Seems we have proven beyond reasonable doubt that NOT is NOT too bright.

And Hello! Neighbor Tommeke_B! My family comes from right by Roeselare. Well we would have been neighbors up to about 1634....
I did chase some cute girls in Roselare and Westerroozebeke many years ago...boy did I like the local lamcic beers and fritjes!
We guess the whole beer, fritjes and falling in "lurv" with the 2 girls---best friends---was some genetic throwback.

Jan v L

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Originally Posted by OldF

Actually the rallying started with gentlemnen drivers.

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Sure it did. But well into the late 80s or even early 90s, (with the exception of some crazy years of 200 total, and 10% ''Evolution'' models under Group B times) indeed up to the arrival of the "Wörld Rally Car'' rules the cars the heroes, the really fast cays were in the basic car wasn't DRASTICALLY different in terms of the most basic thing about a car : the body shell.... and the suspension that bolts to it...

I owner and rallied a Saab, built at a higher spec because of our free-er rules, only 7 years after it won itäs last WRC event---and good drivers, not me!!! but good drivers could still make them go well.

I own a Sierra Cosworth 4x4 thing had it only 6-7 years after they were a reasonable car at the highest levels.
Me. A mechanic and machinist.

I will never SIT in any car built under the Wörld rally Car rules..
I will never be able to afford Reiger or whatever söspendös at 4000 euros per corner and giving 33+35 cm travel

Back when the CARS were imaginable, identification, imagining doing what those Gentlemän Draivers was possible, so they weren't in the least annoying.

Now at most national levels the cost of the car alone has created a ''auto- um ) va fan är ordet för 'gallering''_? Utslag process? ) limited ''gene-pool'' so to speak.
basically in most countries the sport is insanely expensive for any current car and only people with lots of money from somewhere can afford the CURRENT CARS dvs homologated cars...
The higher the class the more the money needed.

Its clear at some point the ability to rasie money becomes far more important than driving ability.

Then Vörlds Sampiönship rally becomes become no longer a time for watching being blown away at the top 20 and ''identifying' with those other guys, it becomes only for use to ''admire'' and''adore'' the 'heroes'..

Besides, the entry isn't a zero-sum game.....one rich guy out, another rich guy in, not a lot of difference.

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

not when it comes to rallying unfortunately...in EVERY other sport/motosport must prove yourself to reach he top, and if you fail at the top then "they quit" you....in the WRC you just spend more money (like slowson).

And that is where my objection lies...we need to have standards at the TOP of the sport.

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Really, what about 75% of all F1 drivers...?

i do not bother with F1 since 1999 so i really do not know the situation there...are there pay drivers there ? who are they ?

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

In EVERY other sport/motosport must prove yourself to reach he top, and if you fail at the top then "they quit" you....in the WRC you just spend more money (like slowson). And that is where my objection lies...we need to have standards at the TOP of the sport.

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From me, may all factory teams disappear from WRC as race participants and there were more factories that build cheaper rallycars that are equivalent for all!
If you do not have to pay expensive drivers and may sell cheaper rallycars. Those who would sell many cars have the best chance of winning the factory championship!
With all cars sold, similar tuned for all the same, there would be more top drivers that can win a wrcrally as you can see on IRC!
I guess nobody would likely have the chance to be so many years in a row wrcchampion as we saw in recent years.

Could we get back to topic?

Sorry, I couldn't resist :D

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