[WRC] News & rumours (part III)

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1st February 2015, 04:49
Mariusz

Let's get some facts about Kubica straight.

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Originally Posted by Ounin

Apart from Lotos don't think he has many funds, he is just very rich, this is form his F1 days, I suspect him raising the full throttle from insurance after his crash.
Yes you get screwed if you pay cash to M-Sport and the team decides to witch car the money goes to...If you pay the top price for parts you suddenly are a very important customer and gets proirity treatment. And with own team you are independent and able to choose own engineer and tyre supplier, both are crucial for a good season apart from finishing the rally.

According to his website he has four sponsors; Lotos, Grupa Azoty (a huge chemical consortium), Pirelli and OMP. Yes, Pirelli is his sponsor, not just his tyre supplier. And I think this was one of the main reasons why the talks with PH-Sport failed. Kubica wanted to drive on Pirellis this year and as you could have seen the tyres allowed him to set great times on Monte. So you were wrong with the first part, but exactly right with the last part.

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Originally Posted by nafpaktos

How can someeone be sure that a part is brand new and not just excellent rapaired-rebuilt?we are talking about msport guys.i am still a bit biased towards msport after antony's revelations in his blog.

There is no reason why M-Sport wouldn't want Kubica to succeed. The better results Fords make the more cars they sell and rent.

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

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Originally Posted by wrc1600
Because he spent 20+ in motorsport, good few years in top category and knows better how to do things unlike you.

spending your time in something doesn't make you an expert (especially when you have to pay most of the time)...on the contrary spending that much time on something without any notable achievements shows lack of skills.

I think you should check with google about his achievements in his last 20 years in motorsport.
1st February 2015, 12:51
AndyRAC

Must be a different Robert Kubica to the one who was in F1; won the Canadian GP, won the Bandini Trophy - and was feared by Alonso & Hamilton......
1st February 2015, 13:04
N.O.T

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Originally Posted by AndyRAC

Must be a different Robert Kubica to the one who was in F1; won the Canadian GP, won the Bandini Trophy - and was feared by Alonso & Hamilton......

Oh you are of those guys who take womens sports seriously... it is ok, i am not prejudiced against your lesser kind... it is a good thing the F1 starts soon, less people in here.
1st February 2015, 13:32
AndyRAC

No, I'm a Motorsport fan!! WRC, WEC, DTM, Super GT even F1......

"If it has wheels, and they keep score......." ;)
1st February 2015, 13:36
Ounin

I'm not F1 fan either, but in the world of lesser kind the word salary is much higher lever indeed. Robert Kubica's salary in 2009 was 4,5 million and in 2010 it was 7,5 million euros. Let alone secondary earnings like sponsors and insurance he must have got after accident. In other words Kubica is financially completely independant he has the money to pay a WRC team within a whisper. Hope he makes optimal use of this, together with his added finances of the sponsors.
1st February 2015, 13:41
Ounin

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Originally Posted by AndyRAC

No, I'm a Motorsport fan!! WRC, WEC, DTM, Super GT even F1......

"If it has wheels, and they keep score......." ;)

Ahhh hat's Radiolemans Midweek stuff... Great but not rally fans
1st February 2015, 16:10
dimviii

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2nd February 2015, 10:14
KiwiWRCfan

Is Ken Block about to announce entry to WRC Mexico 2015 ?

Ken Block has announced on FB and twitter that he will reveal his 2015 livery and plans on Feb 2nd, USA time. Entries for rally Mexico close on Feb 3rd. Could this be just a coincidence or is Ken about to announce he will enter Rally Mexico 2015
2nd February 2015, 10:27
MartijnS

Abbring will contest in 4 rounds this year.
2nd February 2015, 10:39
N.O.T

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Originally Posted by KiwiWRCfan

Ken Block has announced on FB and twitter that he will reveal his 2015 livery and plans on Feb 2nd, USA time. Entries for rally Mexico close on Feb 3rd. Could this be just a coincidence or is Ken about to announce he will enter Rally Mexico 2015

nobody cares about his plans... notify us when he finds a chin transplant donor.
2nd February 2015, 11:18
A FONDO

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Originally Posted by KiwiWRCfan

Ken Block has announced on FB and twitter that he will reveal his 2015 livery and plans on Feb 2nd, USA time. Entries for rally Mexico close on Feb 3rd. Could this be just a coincidence or is Ken about to announce he will enter Rally Mexico 2015

I don't believe he will skip it. Though I wonder why didn't show up for the Snow drift rally this weekend
2nd February 2015, 15:38
dimviii

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Originally Posted by MartijnS

Abbring will contest in 4 rounds this year.

have we got more info?
2nd February 2015, 15:41
EightGear

http://motorsport.hyundai.com/m/en/news/view/5686
2nd February 2015, 16:21
Eli

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117559 let's hope they bring it back
2nd February 2015, 16:34
AL14

"My position on running a WRC event on an island is well known, it's not our favourite option, but at the same time we know on a sporting level we will have a top-quality event and we can live with this."

I suspect Sardinia may not like this.
2nd February 2015, 16:35
Fast Eddie WRC

Hyundai team 2015
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B82XHbDCAAA5Iog.jpg:large
2nd February 2015, 17:03
tommeke_B

Monte Carlo will start in Valence again next year, with stages the Drome and Ardeche region. So next year, a lot of completely new stages again, at least for the WRC crews.. :)
2nd February 2015, 17:27
Eli

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Originally Posted by tommeke_B

Monte Carlo will start in Valence again next year, with stages the Drome and Ardeche region. So next year, a lot of completely new stages again, at least for the WRC crews.. :)

source from?
2nd February 2015, 18:19
tommeke_B

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Originally Posted by Eli

source from?

https://twitter.com/francebleuDA/sta...643338241?s=03
2nd February 2015, 18:23
Eli

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Originally Posted by tommeke_B

https://twitter.com/francebleuDA/sta...643338241?s=03

cheers
2nd February 2015, 19:05
EightGear

So that's 2017, not next year already. :)
2nd February 2015, 19:25
AndyRAC

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Originally Posted by tommeke_B

Monte Carlo will start in Valence again next year, with stages the Drome and Ardeche region. So next year, a lot of completely new stages again, at least for the WRC crews.. :)

Good!! Is that instead if this years stages? Or in addition to this years stages.
2nd February 2015, 20:00
nafpaktos

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Originally Posted by Eli

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117559 let's hope they bring it back

What will be the gain for eurosport events if they reach a consensus with wrc promoter??to downgrade its product??
2nd February 2015, 21:18
AndyRAC

Maybe Eurosport/ ERC should replace Corsica with Valais - why they dropped it is just madness.
2nd February 2015, 21:30
Jack4688`

Maybe that's WHY they dropped it - to replace Valais beacuse Tour de Corse returns to the WRC because Alsace went tits up because the local fans realised they don't like rallying, just a local hero!
2nd February 2015, 22:51
nafpaktos

Why they should prefer rally du valais than a rally with HUGE BRAND name??i think they have agreement with the organisers of tour de corse.by switching cosre with valais they downgrade their product and the same moment give a big boost to their rivals.they throw to garbage a rally with huge reputation(everyone knows tour de corse even if he is irrelevant to rallying) for a rally that only rallyfans know and the people of the general area.are we serious?DO I MISS SOMETHING??????all my irrelevant friends to rallying know tour de corse,monte carlo,sweden,rac,but none of them rally du valais,sorry i dont get it.pluto can you help us?
2nd February 2015, 23:42
RS

Maybe WRC give Monte back to Eurosport so they have one French event each :D

Apart from the name, I don't see Corse - Valais as a downgrade really. Valais is a nice rally with beautiful scenery and is easier to get to for teams.
3rd February 2015, 00:13
bluuford

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Originally Posted by nafpaktos

Why they should prefer rally du valais than a rally with HUGE BRAND name??i think they have agreement with the organisers of tour de corse.by switching cosre with valais they downgrade their product and the same moment give a big boost to their rivals.they throw to garbage a rally with huge reputation(everyone knows tour de corse even if he is irrelevant to rallying) for a rally that only rallyfans know and the people of the general area.are we serious?DO I MISS SOMETHING??????all my irrelevant friends to rallying know tour de corse,monte carlo,sweden,rac,but none of them rally du valais,sorry i dont get it.pluto can you help us?

ERC Corsica rally was just an underfunded and pale shadow of the real Tour de Corse. If they get money for proper Tour de Corse and Valais is back in ERC then rally world has won a lot.
3rd February 2015, 00:41
nafpaktos

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Originally Posted by RS

Maybe WRC give Monte back to Eurosport so they have one French event each :D

Apart from the name, I don't see Corse - Valais as a downgrade really. Valais is a nice rally with beautiful scenery and is easier to get to for teams.

If someone see an adveritsment to tv such as <tommorow night stay tuned because you will see action from legendy etc ,tour de corse>and on the other side<tommorow stay tuned because you will see some nice action from the beautiful swiss landscape>which do you think is more attractive?i dont speak for guys like us.anyway its their problem, for me of course i prefer corse on wrc but i just try to understand why people from eurosport can do such a strange and not clever move.i wonder because eurosport always did very clever moves about rallying.
3rd February 2015, 05:58
stefanvv

Seems Eurosport like a diversity in ERC calendar. Valais is quite unique in that respect, kind of Monte Carlo conditions, stage characteristics, etc. The key point here might also be "easier to get for teams", Looks like this is also very important and we had really good competition in Valais last years, while Corsica was kind of boring, just not enough competition, local drivers were very strong, but that didn't helped much as it seems, and I'm not sure the stages and organisation had anything to do with the classic Corsica event. Perhaps another island event is too much for the calendar.
And don't think "scenery" factor is not important. Eurosport know how to take advantage of this in excellent way.
3rd February 2015, 14:38
giu canbera

Do you guys think Ford will bring the Focus to WRC? Cuz the new street car (Focus 2016) will be a 4wd 320HP manual shif.!!
are 'murican Subaru fans going nuts now? =P
3rd February 2015, 15:39
EightGear

No.
3rd February 2015, 15:59
pantealex

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Originally Posted by giu canbera

Do you guys think Ford will bring the Focus to WRC? Cuz the new street car (Focus 2016) will be a 4wd 320HP manual shif.!!
are 'murican Subaru fans going nuts now? =P

VW has Golf R 4wd and +300hp and they still use Polo.

so, NO!
3rd February 2015, 17:17
Fast Eddie WRC

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Originally Posted by giu canbera

Do you guys think Ford will bring the Focus to WRC? Cuz the new street car (Focus 2016) will be a 4wd 320HP manual shif.!!

Ford official release of the 4WD Focus RS: https://media.ford.com/content/fordm...-focus-rs.html

https://media.ford.com/content/dam/f...b.480.480.jpeg

https://media.ford.com/content/dam/f...b.480.480.jpeg
3rd February 2015, 18:38
AndyRAC

Should really be a Fiesta, with 3 doors, 1.6T & 4WD..... That's if RS still means Rallye Sport.
3rd February 2015, 19:29
Jack4688`

nafpaktos I think you're putting too much emphasis on the tradition and history behind Tour de Corse. Honestly I wouldn't get a single positive answer if I asked non car guys or non motorsport fans what Tour de Corse is.

Also the ERC and WRC can't really be considered rivals - the WRC needs manufacturers to thrive, while ERC needs privateers to thrive. This means the rallies themselves have a very different feel to them. In ERC circles the Rallye du Valais is certainly not a downgrade. The fans watching on Eurosport will certainly not be disappointed, the rally will have plenty of spectators and the competitors will enjoy it.

Valais will be good for ERC, Tour de Corse can be good for WRC (if they don't fuck it up).
4th February 2015, 02:50
Mk2 RS2000

http://www.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald...d-Rally-Champs

Hyundai Motorsports second team.
4th February 2015, 13:09
liposh

Jack4688: You are right in some points, but not in all of them. In this specific case it is not downgrade to replace Corse with Valais (at least for spectators) , but it is not possible to do it repeatedly. ERC and WRC should not be rivals but in fact they are. Because of better coverage ERC is much more than second league. And for example such manufacturers as Skoda don´t need WRC for promo, they need ERC .

nafpaktos: In my opinion people from ERC received the money from Tour de Corse organizers (0,4 mio Eur, right?) and they will not return it back. Something like fine (penalty) for Tour de Corse organizers for leaving ERC. And after that the case is closed for people from ERC. That is why they agreed. That is definitely the way of Mr. Ribeiro´s thinking. I don´t say he is bad guy or good guy, but he is exactly THAT kind of guy.
4th February 2015, 16:04
COD

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Originally Posted by Mk2 RS2000

http://www.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald...d-Rally-Champs

Hyundai Motorsports second team.

Hopefully they will run other drivers than Abbring also alongside Paddong during the year
6th February 2015, 10:21
jbmarcus21

Tour de Corse 2015 Wrc is officially confirmed http://planetemarcus.com/le-rallye-w...tour-en-corse/

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