RoboRomney
Proof that Romney will say anything to get elected.
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RoboRomney
Proof that Romney will say anything to get elected.
Where's the liberal press?Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain VXR
"In the long run it is only to the man of morality that wealth comes... We, like the Psalmists, occasionally see the wicked prosper, but only occasionally. Godliness is in league with riches.”Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonyvop
- William Lawrence, 1891 (attributed)
JP Morgan served as the Treasurer to Lawrence's church pension fund; William Lawrence was referred to as "The Banker Bishop.
I suppose that you could argue that the "crash in the American educational system" "directly to the entitlement class" but arguments against the so called "idle rich" had been made as far back as the 1880s when there wasn't even a national educational system.
I dismiss your argument as not being grounded in historical fact. "The entitlement class" has always been with us, both at the very richest and the very poorest of society and is a function of everyone acting out of self-interest.
True. The "idle rich" have been around almost forever. But I think you will find that those people are the second, third or more generations. The first generation weren't idle as they were the ones who worked to acquire the riches. In many cases that's true of later descendants too. Sooner or later though someone comes along and says " I've got it made, I don't have to work. The same happens at the bottom too. Some are always lazy and/or unmotivated. Fortunately those people are in the minority. Otherwise we'd still be in the stone age.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
Formerly the only people that felt "entitled" were the extreme few, then-times 1% whose Daddies owned everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
One could argue that once the progressive side in America managed to pass enough laws to benefit everybody and the famous "American middle class" grew to be the norm everywhere, and 80% owned something, and managed some education, and transformed the country, they felt a right of ownership in what they had built, or "entitlement" in other words..
But we know this is yet another code-word that side loves to use to draw in the gullible and distract them: by pointing out a few poor, and powerless and you know those _____________ (fill in the blank with the group you hate-du-jour), they hope to distract people from their actions which the record shows, which countless graphs show, are intended to enrich and further gorge the class originally called "the entitlement class"
Guys like Willard Romney whose daddy ran a business making things.
G.W. Bush, whose Daddy and Granddaddies ran business pumping a real substance out of the ground
Indeed the eminently readable American JK Galbraith who in the 50s wrote such classics as "The Affluent Society" and "the New Industrial State", by the 90s wrote a book about this generation of pampered, useless, airheaded, greedy twerps called "The Culture of Contentment"
The Culture of Contentment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Culture of Contentment is an essay by economist John K. Galbraith, analyzing the situation of the Western industrial world, which was first published in 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Prof Galbraith traces the growth of a stultifying contentment in the western industrial world represented by the G7 group of countries. He pays particular attention to the self serving economic comfort achieved by the fortunate and politically dominant community and contrasts this to the condition of the underclass which he sees as being for the first time in these countries stalled in poverty.
Any man that has such an vast array of pthy quotes is OK in my book:
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."
"There's no question that this is a time when corporations have taken over the basic process of governing." in a PBS television interview on The Newshour shortly before his death.
Yep, same boring drum of old liberal tune blaming rich guy for my misery because my party faitful told me so. Yep i want that money that his father or family made by working hard and left him. Some people live in dissolution that if you drive a nice car ,have nice home and own the business life is easy and enjoyable, therefore more tax is the answer to make everyone pay fair share .Every time owner of small business is forced to pay more, he needs to cut somewhere else, and is always employee who just want a job with benefits, that pays the piper .Why not give incentive to those who can and know how to expend their buisness here ,and employ 23 mil therefore they can aford nice home ,good school and open new buisness.
An interesting question for everyone. Define what "fair share" means in the context of a discussion on taxes.Quote:
Originally Posted by FIAT1
I'll start with an example:
Romney at an income of, oh say, ten million a year and rate of 14% 10,000,000 x 14% = $1,400,000.
Joe Blow at income of, lets say, 50,000 a year and tax rate of 20%. 50,000 x 20% = $10,000.
In this case, Romney would pay 28 times in taxes what Joe MAKES in a year.
Who exactly is paying their fair share?
Joe.
Not sure .Example:Other type of Joe is working two jobs and overtime for years. He is paying 30% taxes and after 20 years of sacrifise he invests his savings or opens the buisness, and is taxed again 14% on his hard earn money and work. Everyone likes to see 14%,but is not fair assessment . I don't know who is paying more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Joe, specially if the $50,000 also includes all his offshore "capital gains income" :bandit: :p