The Ferrari thread !

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

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Alonso would not have won one race with the 2009 Ferrari.

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IMO he might have won in Hungary, but not in Belgium.

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Originally Posted by Saint Devote

Yes. That is the risk they took. But it was not the time spent that made Brawn what it was...

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Right, it was the time + 3 windtunnels + more than 700 people working around the clock + like 750 million Euro from Honda and a push from the FIA! ;)

You see I fully agree, time enough can't make anything it just goes by without use.

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Originally Posted by henners88

MS was beaten by Felipe on occasion yes.

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Stop cherry picking facts, we are talking about season results not the occasional race.

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Originally Posted by ioan

Stop cherry picking facts, we are talking about season results not the occasional race.

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You really can't compare things so directly. When Massa came into Ferrari it was very much Michael's team, when Kimi came there, Massa was well-settled and had one learning year behind him. Things are not as simple as you make them out to be.


ON to other things.....What do you think the prospects are for Ferrari next year? IMO, thinking logically, Alonso is going to beat recovering Massa, since the accident is bound to have some sort of an after-effect no matter what people say. IMO the car will probably be good since the technical team is still almost as strong as in Michael's days. My biggest question mark is the organisation and leadership. Will Montezemolo allow Domenicali to lead the team if there are bumbs on the road? Is he capable of doing that?

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Originally Posted by ioan

Did I miss MS being beaten by Felipe like Kimi was?! :/

You see we use the same yardstick for both, their team mate, objective enough IMO.

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...like FM's job was to beat MS...

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Originally Posted by ioan

Right, it was the time + 3 windtunnels + more than 700 people working around the clock + like 750 million Euro from Honda and a push from the FIA! ;)

You see I fully agree, time enough can't make anything it just goes by without use.

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It was the basic concept of the car that won. Adrian Newey had far less time and the team had less resources than Ferrari and Mclaren.

Time will refine it only.

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Originally Posted by F1boat

IMO he might have won in Hungary, but not in Belgium.

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Hungary? Why? KR was very impressive that day, but still stood no chance against Hamilton.
Alonso hardly would have been better.

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Originally Posted by DexDexter

IMO, thinking logically, Alonso is going to beat recovering Massa, since the accident is bound to have some sort of an after-effect no matter what people say.

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No, Alonso is the class of the F1 grid. He will beat Massa because he is a better driver than Massa, accident or no accident. And remember that I am a Massa supporter and still believe Alonso has too much ammo for the Brazilian.

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Originally Posted by henners88

I am surprised you made this comment when you previous post (see below) is "cherry picking" facts and fiction, to justify in your own mind, why Brawn wiped the floor with the rest of the field.


What a beaut.. :p

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Fiction?! Why do you use words that you do not understand? :confused:

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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2

No, Alonso is the class of the F1 grid. He will beat Massa because he is a better driver than Massa, accident or no accident. And remember that I am a Massa supporter and still believe Alonso has too much ammo for the Brazilian.

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Alonso is indeed the class of the grid after Hamilton (based on facts) but Massa's accident will certainly have an effect on his performance, that was the point I was trying to made.

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Originally Posted by ioan

Fiction?! Why do you use words that you do not understand? :confused:

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After a brief calm period, you seem to be at it again :rolleyes: .