Until a few months ago, you used to see both of them in the same picture, and it wasn't a pretty one. I wish all our opinions could be as 'versatile'...Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
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Until a few months ago, you used to see both of them in the same picture, and it wasn't a pretty one. I wish all our opinions could be as 'versatile'...Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Exactly!Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
As I said, I'm an open minded person! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
As the President, and therefore main figurehead, of a global organisation being snubbed very publicly by dignitaries around the world does nothing for that organisation's reputation and standing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagwan
The mere fact that the FIA has been structured in such a way by the President ensured his "victory" at the EGM. That raises questions over his stewardship of the FIA. As another example, the F1 Commision was disbanded by Max at the end of 2007. Why? The commision had been the place where the F1 rules were set before being approved by the FIA, but now it is the FIA that decides, so therefore more power secured by Max. His Presidency is littered with such political moves he designed to secure his position.
On specific issues...why, for example, did the FIA President, who was to be judging the Benetton fuel rig case, allegedly (there has been no libel case to contest this) advise the teams defending lawyer how to plead the night before the hearing to ensure they were not kicked out of the championship? Is that someone acting in a fair and impartial manner, and in the interests of the sport?
Sorry Bagwan but there are many arguments to be made as to why Max should go, and only his own scaremongering argues for him staying.
One that labels all the people that disagree with you as die-hard Mosely haters?Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Yep, and rightly so!Quote:
Originally Posted by theugsquirrel
Don't forget last year , when he managed to keep two top contenders in the race , despite driving stolen cars .Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
Is that someone acting in a fair and impartial manner , and in the interests of the sport ?
There were no hookers in either case , Arrows .
This was about hookers .
If the clubs of the FIA want to get rid , they need to use an issue related to F1 .
By the way , those big numbers that are quoted membership tallies fo the CAA , and AAA in North America seem to read like the whole club wants him out .
I hate to break it to you , but nobody to whom I've spoken , as members of CAA , even knew they were members by association in the FIA .
Sure , it looks good when you use statistics to prove a point , but numbers here mean little if the general membership had little to do with the decision . I know they didn't ask me t vote on whether the vote would be for or against .
Was that Bernie keeping them in the race and not Max? According to some accounts Max was intent on removing McLaren from the championship, largely because of personal animosity towards Ron Dennis, and was only prevented from doing so by Bernie. The alleged "witchunt" of course led to spats with, most noteably, Brundle (whatever happened to that lawsuit?) and Stewart and was brought into further focus with the Renault case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagwan
There have been many examples of inconsitent application of the rules, and imposition of penalties under Max's watch, something that his FIA has encouraged by rules being designed to be open to interpretation by, guess who, the FIA.
That's interesting to know. I guess it would hardly be practical for a vote to be taken of individual members, but the fact that members of the CAA were not aware they were members by association in the FIA does not do the FIA much credit in itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagwan
I would close it mate, before what is left makes a bid for freedom. ;) :p :Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
The point , though , is that the strength of the displeasure came from the heads of the organizations , not from the general membership . Few of them even knew they were members .Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
Those calling for dismissal , dismissed the vote as a fraud , because of grand membership numbers .
The FIA logo is on the CAA card , and , not being a sporting club , but a "free-tow" , "free map" , safety organization , is generally unconcerned about racing .
Why would a group without racing , with members generally unaware they had any voice in the matter , hold any weight in this issue ?
Whether Max was with the heads of state in Monaco shaking hands or not has little to do with whether or not they come to tow me home .
It has little to do with hookers as well .