I dont speak this language but the graphic is interesting... I think?
https://sport.delfi.ee/artikkel/8276...lmas-ei-leidu?
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I dont speak this language but the graphic is interesting... I think?
https://sport.delfi.ee/artikkel/8276...lmas-ei-leidu?
This article is from 3 years ago. And fyi, you can translate the whole page with google translator.Quote:
Originally Posted by fiscorpun
Sorry. Was on the smartphone at work. Reading it properly when Im homeQuote:
Originally Posted by Päss1928
should we have a topic for extreme-e like we have for rallycross?
They just announced they will have a race in Sardegna (Island X-Prix) in 23-24 Oct (replacing the races in south america).
I just noticed that there was a DS3 in Portugal! Cyrille, from France.
Thats cool!
https://twitter.com/SaariJarno/statu...10914542120962
Some fire spitting action from a historic Audi quattro
https://itgetsfasternow.com/2021/08/...-ix-2004-2008/
Five years, 79 events. This is the busiest time in the history of WRC with 15-16 events in a season. In addition, super rally was introduced in addition to the rallies of Mexico, Sardegna and Japan, to name a few.
The era when too many manufacturers pulled out - and not enough was done to address it. SupeRally was merely a sticking plaster to a major injury.....
I would say super rally has nothing to do with this. It was more like a reaction to single service park system and growing stage kilometres between two services.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Why manufacturers pulled out was more of a reaction to the decline in world economy. If FIA could have reacted to that somehow, they should have shortened the seasons to 10 rallies or something. Well, the season was shortened in 2009...
To lose 3 in one year - Skoda, Mitsubishi & Peugeot is pretty damning......Too many events and not enough exposure, and ROI. Very little was done. By 2008 and the crash in the world economy, we lost Suzuki & Subaru. However, Honda pulled out of F1 at the same time, and the FiA tried to find a solution for their issues, whilst the WRC withered on the vine, not helped by North One being useless.
For Skoda and Mitsubishi the reasons were clear, their performance was miserable. I don't remember why Peugeot pulled out, was it because PSA wanted only one brand in WRC?
If I recall correctly they said they wouldn't allow both brands to compete against one another.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Mitsubishi is running a SUV in some Rally with an old school livery... I dont see them coming back to WRC tho. Maybe hybrid Dakar and extreme-e... maybe?
https://jalopnik.com/mitsubishi-want...the-1847548875
Atkinson turned down the chance to be Loeb’s team-mate
https://www.speedcafe.com/2021/09/01...ebs-team-mate/
Borja Rozada and the technical role of a WRC codriver
https://www.wrcwings.tech/2021/10/11...-wrc-codriver/
Do the drivers can see their stage-times and current position on some screen inside the car?
Someone tells them via radio? Or they just discover how they went when the reporter tells them??
Noob doubt, sorry
Up until 2015 drivers had their split times available from inside the car during the stage, and they could know whether another driver had gone off before them. Since 2016, that has been forbidden, so in theory no, they don't know anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by fiscorpun
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as the current gen.cars or this era will come an end in a month, i looked some statistics during 2017 - 2021. Monza will add some numbers but most of the results are already decided.
Its still to be decided who will have the most wins during this era, at the moment Ogier has 15, Tänak 14 and Neuville 13. So, Ott has a chance to tie up with Ogier or Ogier has a chance to make things clear and get 16 wins with Monza. Thierry can tie up with Ott but all the 3 guys very close and with basically the same amount.
Wins
Ogier 15
Tänak 14
Neuville 13
Evans 5
Rovanperä 2
Sordo 2
Meeke 2
Latvala 2
Loeb 1
Lappi 1
Podiums:
Ogier 34
Neuville 31
Tänak 30
Evans 16
Sordo 10
Latvala 10
Lappi 7
Mikkelsen 5
Breen 5
Rovanperä 5
Meeke 4
Paddon 4
Loeb 3
Suninen 3
Ostberg 2
Katsuta 1
Power stage wins:
Tänak 16
Neuville 11
Ogier 8
Rovanperä 4
Lappi 4
Latvala 4
Sordo 3
Meeke 3
Katsuta 1
Mikkelsen 1
Evans 1
Stage wins:
Tänak 234
Neuville 205
Ogier 146
Evans 92
Latvala 73
Sordo 54
Meeke 43
Lappi 42
Mikkelsen 41
Rovanperä 29
Breen 20
Loeb 19
Paddon 18
Suninen 14
Katsuta 5
Fourmaux 1
Rally leaders
Tänak 294
Ogier 184
Neuville 178
Evans 93
Sordo 42
Stage wins by manufacturer:
Toyota 417
Hyundai 401
Ford 155
as there are 17 stages in Monza then Hyundai has a chance to pass Toyota but it would mean they have to win all stages, so basically we can say Toyota has won that category, although i must say i was surprised it is so close, i thought Toyota is way ahead
Wins by manufacturer
Toyota 25
Hyundai 17
M-sport 9
How about add Rovanperä, Lappi, Latvala and Meeke? At least they have power stage wins and stage wins
well my logic was only to add drivers who have competed every season in this era, but i can add them as well later if people are interested
E: added them for most of the categories
Here in Czech Republic we are currently seeing a massive loss of entrants in rally events. Of course it's the end of the season and most of the fights are already decided but that's not the main reason. The economic problems (some covid related but mostly chip and energy crisis related) are hitting the motorsport very hard and it's likely that the next season will be very poor. Do you see similar trend in your countries?
This is a very good question that deserves its own topic, IMO!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
I checked some stats from the biggest championship in Argentina and the numbers are more or less the same. (it is way smaller and more "amateur" than rallying in europe tho)
In Finland September had three and October one ”local” rallies with 150 cars each. In addition to the final round of Finnish championship (100) and WRC event with its side national event (80).
In Spain we had huge entries after the re-start because everyone was up for it, nowadays we have so many events each week (with re-scheduled events) that entries went down a bit, but I think nothing dramaticQuote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
I also dont think that economic problems are the only problem. Of course it is not the best with economy, but it is related also to so many events in very short time. After later start of season and postponing the events to second half of the season, there is less and less crews which are doing whole championships and they are choosing events which they wants to start. It is also problem with similar situation in countries around, because some teams are renting cars to more competitors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Looking at the results of the czech championship on ewrc, i see big no loss of entrants in any rally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
https://www.ewrc-results.com/season/...zech-republic/
Here in belgium it depends. sSome rallies seem to have lost quite a few entries, mostly the big national ones. But the local rallies mostly seem to have remained stable.
amazing story i didnt know!
“I more or less stood up on my chair in front of them and put my two hands on the table and said ‘OK, you feel that I am not able to do this job and you have some people that say so. I will find 10 times more people that will tell you that I am able to do that and I will prove you [wrong].”
https://www.wrc.com/en/news/2021/wrc...citroen-shock/
https://twitter.com/WRCgerardquinn/s...719025156?s=20
The car that nearly never happened! There's a documented story to be told on this one, one day.......
The results from 2017/18 alone are living proof that no one should ever give in to bullies.......trust me!
Interesting one! I wonder what the story is behind this?
Queen of Speed - the Michele Mouton documentary is out now on Sky in the UK..
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/s...areer/6763000/
BBC interview (one hour in):
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0011rpl
I was in the car running some errands, and I got a surprise when I heard the name Michele Mouton was bring interviewed. It's quite apt that this week in November there is rallying on BBC radio. (There was a time when the RAC Rally had hourly updates on Radio2/5/5Live.)
A good and bad day today.
20 years ago Richard Burns wins championship.
16 years ago loses his battle with brain tumour.
Do you guys follow any type of HillClimb competition? I have been watching that HillClimbMonsters channel on YouTube and I find awesome to see such a variety of cars racing against each other. It reminds me rally, but it looks more "open". Any tips of an official Championship for me to actually follow instead of just these clips?
That's the beauty of hillclimbing, you can see many "extreme" cars built by small privateers and a huge variety. The only international championship I'm aware of is the European Hillclimb Championship (many clips of HillClimbMonsters are taken from that) but I don't think there are ways to follow it apart from results and videos. Sometimes an organizer might stream the start on their Fb page or YT channel.Quote:
Originally Posted by lmmjvss
Thanks for the infos mate. Weird, it looks a "simple" championship to be broadcasted like the UCI MTB Downhill championship. With some clips from the "top20" plus the "top10" full run. It looks its normally just one stage. Way more simple than a rally Championship, eh? But anyway. Going to check this right now :)
I lived for years close to several hill climb tracks, one of them being a European championship (Ecce Homo) classic but to be honest I have never fell in love with it. In that area there were plenty of motorsports to see live every weekend from motorcross over go-karts or truck trial up to MotoGP. I used to visit motorcross and go-karts from time to time but only rally was the one I visited really regularly.Quote:
Originally Posted by lmmjvss
PS One of the craziest things you can see on hill climbs here from time to time is Buggyra with their trucks, both circuit or Dakar ones. Just check the link :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNCBtHk0x98
If anybody is interested tomorrow a nice potential christmas present is released: https://www.rallyandracing.com/en/mc...ye-monte-carlo
There are also Loeb, Roehrl and Munari editions hand signed by each, limited to 200 copies also there on the store.
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/your-...a-octavia-wrc/
According to Dirtfish readers, Skoda Octavia is the best WRC car of all time.
(This poll was open and anonymous, you could vote multiple times if you wanted)
The Gravel Crew did his job perfectly, it's their cult rally car. But strangely I find it quite amusing and not a bad choice :DQuote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
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The correct result! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Proud Gravel Crew member!