[WRC] News & Rumours (part V) 2017

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Originally Posted by jparker

I know, but without driver's title, this is half the success. That's why I didn't paste the Maune stats. but OK point taken

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As a pre-meal to the upcoming Rally Sweden, Ford is actually is the most successful car there since wrc exists with 7 wins.

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Originally Posted by Karukera

Polo wins are way too much inequally split in Ogier's favor, fact.

My point is Ogier made the final difference. He would have acheived his records in a Fiesta, DS3 or the late I20.

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How many of those were with a VW driver in 2nd as well? also "late" I20 was 1 year only when everyone else was already focusing on the 2017 car.

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Originally Posted by stefanvv

As a pre-meal to the upcoming Rally Sweden, Ford is actually is the most successful car there since wrc exists with 7 wins.

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But only 1 of those with a 1.6 turbo WRC unfortunately! Interestingly I see second equal on 6 wins is Peugeot and Saab.

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Originally Posted by itix

He/she/it (probably he) also totally forgot the years when Ford were really competitive (like around 2003, around 2006, the era with Hirvonen etc etc).

Ford have been competitive several times. Jparker just has some weird ununderstandable beef with Ford that hasn't even been explained and refuse to see it.

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I think he is 130% Subaru fan...
If not mistaken he is American and in America about 80% of everybody with even the slightest interest is Subaru fans, and in events for more than 12 years about a little over 60% of all the cars are Subaru... They have invented several classes with near 100% Subaru entries over here... It is the triumph of advertising and inertia...
Have you seen how amazingly fast all the Subie guys all are? People say (och va fan vet jag men dom låtsas vara seriöst, tror de eller ej) ''Now we are up to the level of Europe......Amerika has arrived!!!''

#alt-reality
So if Subie is bästis ever then you must hate all other brands...
Again, wot da fuq do I know?

Å fan! I just thought! maybe they are all pissed off at Ford because Australian general nice guy Brendon Reeves came over a few years ago and with a nice spec non-turbo 1,6 Fiest he beat every single Subie turbo and non-turbo in North America except British hired gun Higgins and maybe Lestage or Block or some rich guy and did some 3rds overall and 4th overall.. If I was Subie fan I'd be pissed too if some guy in a little n.a. 1,6 proved how slow the entire field is...


Vem vet?

so do the general rally public in USA also hate on Hayden for kicking that Block tryhard's bottom in a 2wd escort ???
or was that kept hush-hush

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Originally Posted by Karukera

2) Any driver being offered a huge amount of money with a gigantic ambitious program would have signed up instantly.

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Toyota offered Ogier "huge amount of money"
Did he say YES ?

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Originally Posted by pantealex

Toyota offered Ogier "huge amount of money"
Did he say YES ?

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That must have been sponsor related issue, so no good example. That thing about the bad Toyota's suspension was just for the media.

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Originally Posted by jparker

That must have been sponsor related issue, so no good example. That thing about the bad Toyota's suspension was just for the media.

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Hi Donald.

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Originally Posted by jparker

That must have been sponsor related issue, so no good example. That thing about the bad Toyota's suspension was just for the media.

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How serious are you about following rallying? Other than the professional pride of being a 'paid' driver, the top guys in WRC rallying are very much in it for the buzz and the glory - the rewards are secondary. Ogier wouldn't drive anything he didn't feel would be competitive, no matter how much cash was dangled as a carrot. Similarly, Citroen would never have enough cash to tempt him to return as long as Matton is boss. Ogier is set for life already but he does have a small matter of beating records that appears to be all the motivation he needs.

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Originally Posted by jparker

That must have been sponsor related issue, so no good example. That thing about the bad Toyota's suspension was just for the media.

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Are you really serious with this statement??