2012 Presidential Race

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Nowhere in my statement did I refer to this having anything to do with political views at all. It wasn't implied and it isn't meant.

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Oi, mate, you're in a minefield now....there are as some here have pointed out, locally understood implied meanings in words and concepts, and you were unintentionally edging toward the "dividing line'...as understood and perpetuated by the side "that doesn't".

To "them", it does.

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Originally Posted by Rudy Tamasz

Your implying that education and learning is normally associated with certain political views is questionable, to say the least.

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Tavarich Rudski, in some subtle ways, it is. What parties concerned with holding static, or worse, nostalgic retrograde policies, one could say that the point for "those people' is not education per se, eg "learning MORE, incorporation ( in the original sense in-corpus---to take the new ideas "into the body") of what you have learned to synthesize new ideas, new possible solutions"
but rather in accumulation of rhetorical ammunition to rationalise the "return to the glory days of......"


So in some ways education is linked to some political views.

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Originally Posted by janvanvurpa

Ah but there you risk the tired non-sequitor from "the usual suspects' that " Merikuh ain't a Democracy, itssa Respublik".

And if I hear that one more time I will blow my brains out.

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" Merikuh ain't a Democracy, itssa Respublik".
" Merikuh ain't a Democracy, itssa Respublik".
" Merikuh ain't a Democracy, itssa Respublik".
" Merikuh ain't a Democracy, itssa Respublik".
" Merikuh ain't a Democracy, itssa Respublik".




Did it work? :)

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Originally Posted by janvanvurpa

Tavarich Rudski, in some subtle ways, it is. What parties concerned with holding static, or worse, nostalgic retrograde policies, one could say that the point for "those people' is not education per se, eg "learning MORE, incorporation ( in the original sense in-corpus---to take the new ideas "into the body") of what you have learned to synthesize new ideas, new possible solutions"
but rather in accumulation of rhetorical ammunition to rationalise the "return to the glory days of......"


So in some ways education is linked to some political views.

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One can argue that with the crash in the American educational system brought about by liberal policies led directly to the entitlement class.

Then you can also look at many countries with poorer educational systems in which continually vote in people who are destructive to their very nation. There are many examples of this in Latin America such as Venezuela, Argentina and Bolivia compared to a nation with an excellent educational system like Chile.

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

One can argue that with the crash in the American educational system brought about by liberal policies led directly to the entitlement class.

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No Child Left Behind Act of 2001 was a half-brained policy signed into law by whom? Oh, a half-brained President named Bush. If a public school does not achieve a certain level of success on a test, then their school funding is taken. So what have the teachers done? Teachers have forgone the entire learning process and are strictly teaching how to beat a test, and in worse cases teachers have been caught cheating to raise their kids' scores on these tests!

What's worse now is that the GOP and Christian right is desperately trying to pull public funds into private schools, so kids can get brainwashed about invisible fairies in the sky. This is now under the guise of "voucher programs," but it has had a funny backlash.

Louisiana has a voucher program that now allows public funds to go to private religious schools. The problem is that the Christian's forgot that they're not the only religion in America, so now there are going to be Islamic schools being funded via public tax dollars. Now the Christians are pissed off because they believe that their religion is the only "right" one, which it isn't because all religions are a money-making hoax, and Islamic schools are now going to be targeted to make sure radical Islamists aren't bred in America.

You'd think Louisiana's citizens would have had the foresight to this little conundrum, but it's now an un-Constitutional law (separation of church and state) that's going to be challenged in the near future.

The gun nuts are out in full swing over these elections.

GOP zealot fired a shot into Obama's campaign office in Colorado.

Odd. Wasn't there just a massive shooting in CO recently?

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Originally Posted by gloomyDAY

No Child Left Behind Act of 2001 was a half-brained policy signed into law by whom? Oh, a half-brained President named Bush. If a public school does not achieve a certain level of success on a test, then their school funding is taken. So what have the teachers done? Teachers have forgone the entire learning process and are strictly teaching how to beat a test, and in worse cases teachers have been caught cheating to raise their kids' scores on these tests!

What's worse now is that the GOP and Christian right is desperately trying to pull public funds into private schools, so kids can get brainwashed about invisible fairies in the sky. This is now under the guise of "voucher programs," but it has had a funny backlash.

Louisiana has a voucher program that now allows public funds to go to private religious schools. The problem is that the Christian's forgot that they're not the only religion in America, so now there are going to be Islamic schools being funded via public tax dollars. Now the Christians are pissed off because they believe that their religion is the only "right" one, which it isn't because all religions are a money-making hoax, and Islamic schools are now going to be targeted to make sure radical Islamists aren't bred in America.

You'd think Louisiana's citizens would have had the foresight to this little conundrum, but it's now an un-Constitutional law (separation of church and state) that's going to be challenged in the near future.

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Odd you should mention Lousy-anny and unintended consequences.. Remember Willard schmoozing with his peers at that $50,000 a plate dinner where he was ranting about those horrible people that pay less taxes than he does? The 47% he mentioned with such contempt? The entitlement people..

No place in the country matches all those thing better than Lousy-Anna... And they've voted solid Republigoon since gawd knows when......decades...


And you're spot on about the Private school thing... Here in my fair state, we'll be voting for
"Charter" schools in November... I say it's intentionally the thin edge of the wedge for those religious kooks who bitch piteously about "Welfare Cadillac driver filling their SUV with lobsters and steak" who want to have all of us pay so the can teach their little--in my opinion---mentally abused---childred that the earth is 6437 years old and Adam sat around blissed out with the dinosaurs.

Do you remember the whole discovery of the real creator of the universe? The Flying Spaghetti Monster?
That was a response to a similarly myopic Kansas law regarding "equal time for creationsism and Intel-u-gunt Deesign"

What are we supposed to do?

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I personally believe that religion has no place in schools. It's a big issue in the UK too.

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Originally Posted by Mark

I personally believe that religion has no place in schools. It's a big issue in the UK too.

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Agree with that 100%.

But every time I watch Treme New Orleans looks so, well, interesting.