WRC3

Yes indeed the WRC3 thread has been created for the general discussion of all aspects of the game,including the SOUND which is the SECOND most important aspect of any motor sport simulation video game only beaten by the physics handling model,So this is indeed the right place to DISCUSS the relevant issues with the poor sound for existing members and visitors alike, For the overall immersion of any video game to work you need to feel that all your senses are being attacked from all relevant inputs from the force feedback wrenching at your wrists from your steering wheel (GT500) to the enveloping sounds of your cars engine straining as it comes near its limits, To the road and tyre sounds that give you vital clues as to where the traction is gained and lost to keep the momentum of your car flat out through the stage to obtain the fastest possible time.So please let us mere mortals have our gripes and groans about the poor SOUND aspect within the WRC3 game thread from your lofty position MR moderator.PS now ive had my rant about freedom of speech looking forward to any set up tips next week and possible time comparisons can't quite get my head around the sub 4minute times on the demo stage can only manage 4:16s funny how no one shows them actually playing and and the options used.

Wrc focus:

One thing is sure, I can't belive how someone with a handcontrol on a console can drive the singel stage in the demo version around 4min (4.01-0.4) with NO helpsetups engage! Thats respect!

With a good steering wheel, absolutley but with a handcontrol and no "help"... :O

No feeling at all but respect if it's possible! :P

I hope they follow Forza leaderboards, where you can see if they used assists or not.

Jojje

Totally agree Astro83 can't understand how the cars look so stable whilst apparently using a hand controller and no driver aids doesn't look right to me,ive driven the stage dozens of times with a wheel and with the increase in speed with the higher gear needed to try and match their speed the cars become naturally unstable more so than shown on the videos,i have tried to follow their lines not that they are really anything different but can't carry as much speed as they seem to be to achieve such times.

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Originally Posted by WRC FOCUS LIVE

Totally agree Astro83 can't understand how the cars look so stable whilst apparently using a hand controller and no driver aids doesn't look right to me,ive driven the stage dozens of times with a wheel and with the increase in speed with the higher gear needed to try and match their speed the cars become naturally unstable more so than shown on the videos,i have tried to follow their lines not that they are really anything different but can't carry as much speed as they seem to be to achieve such times.

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I asked the same question in the demo thread.
The car is not that stable with assists off..but perhaps they know something we don't ;)

Jojje

Wrc focus & Jojje: We are on to them now!!! Mohahaha ;)

Wrc focus: When you play with the wheel, do you think that the demo version has good physics??

I think that it's promesing when I cant get good "control" when I play with no assists and a handcontrol...

I would be nice to hear if you think that the not finish demo version has good physics? Then the realise version must be even better! ;)

I even hear that Alan in Team VVV had sad that in PC version, we can use any steeringlock we want on our wheel. That's really really nice!!

But for you guyes who play on consoles, the lock will be set on 300.

I really really hope that they succeed with the physics in this game! :O

Astro83 I believe the physics model in this current demo is what we will get in the finished game,Which to me is a good thing as this is what has completely changed our (simulation rally game fans) minds towards the franchise after such poor performances in all aspects of the first two iterations of the game,i cant even mention the first game as it went in the bin after about ninety minutes,the second game lasted considerably longer due to the fact it played with the T500 on ps3 and some small improvements to the overall gameplay especially the handling model,back to your original question for me the most significant improvements within gameplay with the steering wheel is the force feedback which has ten times the strengh over the other games and the ability to be adjusted which is fantastic for all the wheels available for the title,I like the feedback load sensation through the wheel using lift-off oversteer and other sensations felt through tyre load but feel there is lots of room for improvement as there is so much of the surface sensation missing,there needs to be road camber,ruts,rocks divets etc seen and hidden and all felt through the wheels feedback in the future which may sound obssesive but achievable with todays technology after all this is why we hand over our hard earned cash to immerse ourselves in simulation as close to the real adrenalin fuelled Motorsport that we love as possible.

Jojje i tried the demo with all aids on with the ps3 controller (being a seasoned wheel gamer) not my thing and i equalled my wheel times easily and the replays looked just as stable as the other vids,so with a lot of practise maybe they can do it ????????????

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Originally Posted by WRC FOCUS LIVE

Jojje i tried the demo with all aids on with the ps3 controller (being a seasoned wheel gamer) not my thing and i equalled my wheel times easily and the replays looked just as stable as the other vids,so with a lot of practise maybe they can do it ????????????

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I dont ever use assists but I also tried it.
It's just that the car behaves so different and it's almost like on rails.
Just as most ( or all ) of the sub 4 videos that I have seen.
But as you say,perhaps they are that good.
We just have to keep practicing.. :)

Jojje

Wrc focus live:

Okey, Thanks for the good answear!
If I understod you right, so is the physics really good with a decent wheel? Good force feedback and more...

But is it no feeling in the wheel when you going over a crest and jumps?? And when the road is poor do you not feel this either??

I agree with you, I didnt even play the last to games because it was soooo badly developt, no feeling at all, that was not rallygames...

This will be so much better but indeed, it's need much more improvements for WRC 4 but I think this game will be great and I can stop playing the old RBR.. ;)