It's very common that these long term contracts are full of options I believe it would be quite easy for Ogier to jump to another team if he so wants for next season.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
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It's very common that these long term contracts are full of options I believe it would be quite easy for Ogier to jump to another team if he so wants for next season.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
"us" who? You and the 2 other rallyfans who expected Kimi to win rallies or just like to bash him down?Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Seriously, one day you should tell me what results did you expected from a former F1 driver...
i expected nothing from a F1 driver....Quote:
Originally Posted by focus206
I also expected the media would treat him like a F1 driver and not a rally driver with a future in the sport
I also expected that some rally fans would treat him like a f1 driver
there is a thread about kimi where you can see my views on him ...search it, some even had almost daily news on his rally career and even diagrams with his progress...but somehow they dissapeared after they realised it was just a fluke and a publicity stunt.
Ok, I understand your point, but frankly, even if few fans does, I never heard the media or a high number of fans saying that Kimi would have won this and that. To me, what he did in the WRC is more than enough. Instead, I heard all this things about Block, who is neither a shadow of a WRC driver.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Anyway, neither Kimi or Ken said something like "I will win so many things" so, they did nothing wrong. If you want someone to give the fault, they are these kind of fans, not Raikkonen himself.
I think one of the Finns will be leaving through the choice - VW is an attractive option for most drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
Raikkonen had the guts to give it a go, he even took a stage win :) So hats off to him as far as I'm concerned.Quote:
Originally Posted by focus206
On the other hand, I wonder what will become of Kaj Lindstrom? Will he have a seat next year?
I've had to delete several posts just in the last 3 pages of this thread. Without naming any names I know there are several of you who are frustrated with one poster. I get that.
I'm sure if I had the time to go back through and read every post I would find out why (actually I already have an idea, having seen the posts that have been reported).
That person (and I'm quite sure he knows who he is, I can tell by the tenor of his posts that he does these things on purpose) has only so much rope left and he will eventually run out and hang himself with it. In the meantime the rest of you who have had your posts deleted don't need to be adding fuel to the fire and getting yourselves in trouble along with him.
Everyone has an opinion, and is entitled to them. Everyone does NOT have the right to attack other posters, even when they are annoying as heck. So stop it.
I'm not taking any further action to the posters whose posts I have deleted- no points, bans, PM's, nothing THIS TIME because I understand and feel their frustration.
But I am watching and will be popping in from time to time. I'd do it more, but I really don't watch rally (dont have much access to it here in the states) and because of that ignorance I wouldn't be able to add to the discussion with anything worthwhile anyway.
Please don't make me have to do something that I really don't want to do........
That is all, rant over. You may now go back to your regularly scheduled posting.
If we stire the suop up a bit more, than what if Ogier goes to Ford than it leaves Hirvonen without a contract but if he goes to Citroen as nr.2 to Loeb instead of VW.
Let`s be honest here he is probably the best nr.2 driver in the world as his speed clearly isn`t good enough to be number one(everywhere else except Finland). Also seems as neither of the Finns at Ford are particularly super good at adjusting and testing the car, which should be the most important thing for VW.
And Citroen could use a good nr.2 driver for their manufactorer championship campaign. Similar as Mikko was nr.2 at Ford with Grönholm as nr.1 and they won the manufactorer championship twice back then.
Seems as the most interesting thing for rest of the season is outside of the Rallies themselves( both championships more or less certain at the moment)
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Originally Posted by FVS
I actually made a similar point on another forum about Mikko going to Citroen:
"Hmm, actually, Hirvonen going to Citroen isn’t the worst suggestion I’ve heard. He doesn’t seems to have an ego, and would provide the perfect back up to Loeb, and a change of scenery might do him the world of good. Add in the fact he would be a likely winner in Sweden/ Finland – it makes sense.
However, Ogier going to Ford to partner Latvala could be ‘interesting’ – more fireworks methinks. Unless Latvala goes to VW….???"
ok i will change the way i express my self then, but not my views.Quote:
Originally Posted by slorydn1
It would be interesting to see what really bothers people, the way i say things ? or the things i say...
it will be a nice expreriment, because i always thought that the way someone expresses himself doesn't affect the outcome much. People tend to object on the substance and get out of control not on the details.