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Problem is no change. Problem is be ugly…
Nothing against "young people" just couldnt eat a whole one..Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
i have to say the rear wing looks impressive, something like out of future
Well when they put the numbers up this way it is tempting to do a comparison:
Win/Podium
Hyundai:
Neuville 17/55
All 21/127 (Sordo is 3/54)
Support drivers 4/72 (1/18 without Sordo)
Toyota:
Rovanpera 8/13
All 68/133
Support drivers 60/120
MSport:
Tanak 17/42
All 17/42
Support drivers 0/0
Quite staggering differences.
i'm talking about archives and review: it's harder to say which year it comes from if it looks the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
also i don't see any particular advantage in mixing different year stuff.
I don't mind that it's the "same". Also no one complained that Subaru had basically the same livery for 10+ years. However I think they could use the same colors and elements with some changes to make something more pleasing to the eye.
https://www.upload.ee/image/14822065...2_Facebook.jpg
Lol..
(Nobody allowed to beat him :D )
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The "senior leaders" page at HMSG website has been taken down. No "who are we" to replace it.
No-one else (except EstWRC) interested in the new aero, all just crying about the livery... some rally fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
We do care, I’m looking forward to seeing it in action ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
get a life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
honestly, it's old news, we saw the new aero in lappi's finland test...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
https://www.wrc.com/en/news/2023/wrc...eam-principal/
Cyril Abiteboul as new team principal
At last!!!!
Now we know why Hyundai didn't change livery...they spent all their graphics budget on photoshopping this image :D
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmQ2LReX...jpg&name=large
That has to be the worst team photo ever posted on a offical page, I can see whoever photoshopped it thinking... so if i put the co-drivers behind the car, i have to make them seem shorter.... but how much... fak it , ill just turn them into Santas little helpers.
:D
Moncet as deputy PR manager/photographer :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Kalm
explain me what need trade Tanak for Lappi, knowing getting a boss with balls?
Because it was not Hyundais decision to let Tänak leave, it was Tänaks decision, and Lappi was the best available driver to replace him
"I would like to extend my thanks to Julien Moncet, who took on the deputy role last season with determination. Under his guidance, we secured five victories and built strong momentum in the second part of the year."
Finally some official thanks from the team !
Seen Breen at recce but he no one's ouvreur?
"recce only" to be prepared for next year full programQuote:
Originally Posted by raffrantic
On the Estonian Go3 channel, they had a guest there who organized last year's Rally Estonia PET for Hyundai and he recounted a story about the issues Hyundai faced during the event. On the first day when Ott was testing, the team ran out of spare bumper splitters and had to come up with a quick solution in order to continue the test. Initially, they considered making the splitters out of wood and even contacted a local carpenter for assistance. However, the carpenter did not have the right size and the team had to find an alternative solution. Eventually, they were able to find the right company who could make them from the right material and the testing was able to continue. Crazy story!
Regarding the WRC Rally Monte Carlo 2023, I hold my horses until Sunday, still 2 days and 10 PS to go. In the meantime, there is this from an F1 insider about Cyril Abiteboul:
"The move is interesting in that there have been some vague rumours around that Hyundai might want to enter Formula 1 in 2026. Korea is a big player in the global car industry and last year ranked fifth in the world in terms of automobile production with 3.46 million cars. The company has recently changed leadership and there are rumours of plans for a street race in Seoul. These are sufficiently serious for Stefano Domenicali to visit the city last autumn. It is not the first time that Hyundai has been rumoured to be thinking about F1. The last time that happened was when the first plans emerged for a Korean GP in Yeongam, in the south of the country. This did not happen because the company ran into a corruption scandal, while the Korean race faded away quite quickly because the location was wrong. "
https://joesaward.wordpress.com/2023...g-appointment/
Noteworthy to read to comments . "Abitboul suffered from the strained relationship with RedBull at a time when Mercedes were starting to comprehensively wipe the floor with everyone. I agree with Joe that he did accomplish a lot bearing in mind what he had to pick up and run with. He remains a particularly driven and focused man, extremely intelligent and in my humble opinion, more than capable of undertaking such an exciting project. He has nothing to envy a Rossi at Alpine in my opinion"
In the end, for my money Huyndai and F1 will remain a pipedream. It's already too late ... roll on future WRC!
Esapekka Lappi must be seeing a very good sports psychologist. His optimism after the Monte is to be admired.
Whereas an overall faster Dani Sordo was frustrated and baffled by his self-assessed lack of pace, Lappi was happy with his lot feeling he was growing into it. It's one thing to remain positive, and quite another to read what isn't obvious to just about anyone.
https://www.wrc.com/en/news/2023/wrc...uture-success/
Yes, I also think Hyundai moving into F1 is a pipedream atm. They are already too late to meet the new regs in 2026, and we have seen how long it has taken Audi to find a team to buy over and commit. Porsche are also having a hell of a struggle finding a team to partner, talks with Red bull fell away and I'm not sure yet if they have found another team to go into a partnership with? Andretti and Cadillac also want to join, but seems they can only get in if F1 expand the current grid, but the existing F1 teams are crying about that because the share of the revenue would be diluted. Andretti are already building new F1 facilities etc though, which shows how much forward planning you need.
Hyundai won't be in F1 before the next again cycle of regs by 2032 onwards imo. Which can't be bad news for their WRC involvement, as they clearly still want to be active in various forms of motorsport and WRC for all its fault is still bigger than touring cars etc
Yeah Porsche to F1 probably won't happen.
But let's see. There is fight FIA vs FOM and teams in terms of opening F1 to new teams. I think it will happen. But there are more teams that want to join. I think whatever team will want to make own engines will have the edge.
So Hyundai to F1 can happen for sure, but I don't believe it will happen.
They spending money others way, not to preparing car great and yeah neuville there is a boss for every one i think...Quote:
Originally Posted by flat_right
All they need to do is buy an existing team.Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
The only issue is finding one that wants to be sold to them 😛
They will buy Red Bull. Abiteboul knows Horner very well :)Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
It's in Estonian and behind a paywall, but: https://sport.postimees.ee/7711972/t...ndai-ees-eelis
It's written that Hyundai complained the most about hybrid related problems during Sweden and that's because the carbon-fibre box that houses the system is too tightly connected to the car and got bumped around a lot causing failures. They could solve it by using a joker but those are obviously worth so-so much that it's not a priority.
Wasnt it the same reason Tänak had to retire last year in Sweden, Hybrid system went to error after a jump. Guess they should of have learned something from it, but guess notQuote:
Originally Posted by sinepikohv
The article mentioned that they can only change it with a joker and they don't want to use one for it...so go figure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyest
I think Abiteboul is really very good choice by Hyundai - one can see that he is the guy who survived the Jurassic Park of F1 and comes from another level - true heavy weight. Compare his guts and experience with Latvala, for example. Abiteboul is very good thing that happened to WRC.
Indeed, here are already some idea's he's floating to take over from F1:Quote:
Originally Posted by AndersX
“There is the 80/20 rule. In F1, we want to have 100% and therefore it is very expensive. I believe this can be completely applied in the rally, i.e. having 80% of the result for 20% of the investment. When I look at Hyundai, I think we could invest a little more on digital simulation."
"We can do better, but we will always be in approximations. There is one thing that shocks me a little, and that is the understanding of the tyres. For example, it is very complicated to know when a soft starts to work less well than a hard, over what distance... It's difficult to simulate, but despite everything I think we could do a little more"
"On the other hand, we could simulate everything related to driving procedures, maps or starts. I could see that not all pilots do the same starting procedure and we could systematize it a little more. With pedals, steering wheel and lights, so very rudimentary things, we can start working. »
https://www.autohebdo.fr/actualites/...imulation.html
"We lived this final with a lot of intensity. It's in the right direction, it's great. Thierry has done a remarkable job, especially since Saturday noon. It's proof of his ability to concentrate, of resilience , to apply pressure to push for mistakes. We were not demotivated after the loss of Esapekka. It's a nice gift that Thierry gives himself and he gives to the whole team. He knows that when you lose a car that was in the lead, it's a blow to morale. Thierry's finish is all the more satisfying. It's a very nice operation, I'm not going to say that has a taste of victory. We saw that Tanak was in difficulty. For some reason that I do not know too well, Rovanpera was not there either. It was important to take advantage of it for the championship, "said Cyril Abiteboul.
And the Hyundai team principal added: "Thierry managed the psychology of the team, his own and that of the opponent. He reminds me a bit of a Fernando Alonso, who uses all the weapons, including those little media coverage. When he announces, for example, on TV that the opponent has a mechanical problem. I like it because there is a side that is put under pressure from all angles. It is the demonstration of a driver who has a lot of of experience and intelligence."
"I would be surprised if Ogier did not tell himself that there is a championship to be won. He took risks in the Power Stage, it shows that he wanted to go for the additional points. If not It's not to add them to the championship, I don't know what the point is," concluded the Frenchman.
https://www.rtbf.be/article/wrc-mexique-cyril-abiteboul-thierry-neuville-me-fait-un-peu-penser-a-fernando-alonso-il-a-beaucoup-d-experience-et-d-intelligence-11170067
This is also a sign that - quite smartly - Cyril has realised he will need to carefully manage Thierry... both to keep him in the right frame of mind since his psychology has always been his weakness, and for his long-term job prospects since HMSG = Team Thierry :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergiow