Saddam Hussein Hanged

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Originally Posted by agwiii

Okay, when someone demonstrates an incredible level of ignorance, there is only one solution! <PLONK>

:s mokin:

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how can I be ignorant if I don't what a pelosi is! I'm not American, am I expected to know every member of their Federal Govt.

"you're ignorant" , that the best you got?

Only a truely ignorant person would blow up the civilian infastructure (water treatment, electricity, telecoms) in Iraq and then demand that iraqis be greatful for what was done to them.

Did the Iraqi governemnt sign away all their rights to their oil yet?

Another interesting link on how Reagan armed the Mujahadeen, which led indirectly to the Taleban rise in Afghanistan.

http://www.democracynow.org/article..../06/10/1425222

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Originally Posted by agwiii

Do some research, starting with Von Klauswitz.

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I think perhaps you mean von Clausewitz? Let's not forget that all his writing is based on the Napoleonic era, when the nature of warfare was very different from what it became in the first half of the 20th century, which in turn is very different from what it has become now.

Basing our modern opinions on warfare on Clausewitz is a bit like basing our opinions on medicine on Hippocrates.

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Originally Posted by agwiii

You have my condolences.

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Eki was talking about NAZI medical experiments without consent. Tukegee syphilis trials <cough> or how about the LSD experiments conducted by the CIA?

not to mention that the USA hired all the NAZI scientists after WW2.

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Originally Posted by studiose

I think perhaps you mean von Clausewitz? Let's not forget that all his writing is based on the Napoleonic era, when the nature of warfare was very different from what it became in the first half of the 20th century, which in turn is very different from what it has become now. Basing our modern opinions of warfare on Clausewitz is a bit like basing our opinions of medicine on Hippocrates.

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His name is spelled more than one way, but at least you recognize him. You may also recognize Giap. (his name will also be spelled more than one way.) I wish there were one book that I could suggest you read to avoid jumping to conclusions, but there are so many for you to read.

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Originally Posted by harsha

the victors have the honour of rewriting history to suit themselves

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Well said Harsha, except that if you don't agree with what is being written, then that is Revisionism!!!!!!

Kissinger lol 'nuff said! Closed subject.

Arrows... SOD thumbsup and spot on.

Wars are the result of failure on every level.


Did the Iraqi governemnt sign away all their rights to their oil yet?

US oil companies are working on the terms (very long term ones) of the 'Leasing agreement' as we speak.

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Originally Posted by agwiii

His name is spelled more than one way

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Yes, I know. It's spelled one way by the people who know who he was and what he wrote, and another way by people who have heard his name mentioned in some political debate and think that mindlessly repeating the name gives their argument credibility. ;)

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Originally Posted by SOD

Eki was talking about NAZI medical experiments without consent. Tukegee syphilis trials <cough> or how about the LSD experiments conducted by the CIA?

not to mention that the USA hired all the NAZI scientists after WW2.

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And took Wernher von Braun, the father of the modern day rocket to the US, where he was instrumental in setting up the US space programme even though he was a member of the SS, double standards, the US never.......

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Originally Posted by cossie16

And took Wernher von Braun, the father of the modern day rocket to the US, where he was instrumental in setting up the US space programme even though he was a member of the SS, double standards, the US never.......

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(Never mind...)