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I think estimating guys who´d never driven a 4WD is not reallly serious, even if they are talented we should talk about documently fast youngsters IN 4WD. Because they are going into a team with 4WD cars only, right?
I know among those two or three we have clearly Pontus Tidemand. His abilities of being an asset in developing a new WRC-car is not known as well as it isn´t for anyone of the current youngsters.
Cant' agree with you on this. Look how both Loeb and Ogier were picked up by Citroen, they both stared in 2WD categories and then they were given a chance in the top team right away. But... these two are the exception than the ruleQuote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
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Yes, they are exceptions as you say. And that´s what I mean. Youngsters like Seb and Seb are not excisting at the moment and that´s why we should be very cautious talking about guys whom there are tenth of in every european country, without mentioning those who are clearly already fast and driving 4WD internationally.Quote:
Originally Posted by makinen_fan
So You think everybody knew who the Sebs would become when they signed them for their junior teams? Come on...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
@ Rallyper, I dare you to call some names, of drivers who were extremely fast in a proper FWD-competition, but lacked the speed in 4WD. I have plenty of examples where it didn't take long to get "top" in 4WD too... I think you should not differ too much. It's not like FWD and 4WD are completely different worlds. I strongly believe that, if you are a great driver with a FWD car, you can be a great driver in a 4WD car as well.
And I don't think Martin Kangur is "one out of 10", his car control is amazing. He showed to be extremely fast on tarmac also, what he did in Ypres last year was mindblowing.
I don´t right them down. I just think we should be serious and think like they´d do at Huyndai.
@Mirek, what we´re discussing isn´t where to pick unproved18 yrs young guys at 2WD. We´re naming possible youngsters for Hyundai WRC-team.
I´m sure Seb and Seb showed exceptional talent way beyond the guys the discussion is about now, and before naming three names from one country we should look all around Europe for tarmac- as well as gravel and ice/snowspecialists. One could wish to be a bit more selective. I wouldn´t even dream of naming three guys from Sweden (except for PT) at this time of Hyundai´s stage. That´s what I mean. Hope you´ll get what I want to say.
You're right about that Rallyper, maybe I should have posted my question elsewhere, since it's not related to Hyundai in any way. For a young driver (not counting the young current WRC-drivers) I would say Paddon, Breen and Abbring are most likely in my opinion. These 3 are great drivers, but great personalities as well, and that's an important factor also (see Ott Tanak).
I´m not PT´s manager but have you seen his website or blog? PT is a mediaman as well as a proven very good driver. You should have him in as well beside your three guys... :)
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I think we need a break from all those "media people". Instead we need a driver with a character who is a very good driver. If there's a character, there's fan and media interest. And if the guy has the capability to win, then everything is great.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper