Singapore 2008: Briatore and Symmonds resign

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Originally Posted by ioan

Sure.
What about Kubica being handed a penalty because of the SC?
What about all the drivers who had to queue behind their team mates during the pit stop frenzy provoked by a deliberate race fixing move?
Pretty much everyone's race was affected by a premeditated criminal offense that and huge amounts of money were lost by people who did bet on that race as I'm pretty sure not many of them bet on Alonso who was starting 15th and on fumes.

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Well I'm of the opinion that Flabio should be charged with race fixing. But I think it would be unfair to change the results so significantly now.

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Originally Posted by fousto

Alonso just needs to hope he doesn't get implicated!!

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I've just been reading Tony Dodgin's column on Autosport and he tells of Alonso's Thursday press session where (obviously) he was asked about events surrounding the team.

Understandably Alonso did not want to get drawn into discussing it, but the press pushed until the Renault PR person present intervened and said "he cannot say...because he has received notice not to speak and this doesn't come from the team, it comes from above".

Whoever "above" is, it's another detail from 'behind the scenes' that makes you wonder what goes on in F1 sometimes :crazy:

Hem, hem...
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78483

"Mosley confirmed that the most severe penalty of total exclusion from the world championship was a possibility if Renault was found guilty, and he clarified that it was now too late for the result of last year's Singapore Grand Prix or world championship to be changed."

So no WDC for Massa or any changes in the WDC a year after the end of the championship.

I see no benefit in speculating whether Alonso knew. There is no suggestion he did and although he might have questioned how he ended up winning, he cannot be implicated on the basis that "he must have known" or "it was obvious".

There was only 1 driver here responsible for the crash and he wants to get the fcuk out of this country and go back to the US IMHO.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Well I'm of the opinion that Flabio should be charged with race fixing. But I think it would be unfair to change the results so significantly now.

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I suppose you are right.
He should have to pay back all the financial loses for those who lost because of his actions.

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

Whoever "above" is, it's another detail from 'behind the scenes' that makes you wonder what goes on in F1 sometimes :crazy:

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I tell you a secret, his name is Carlos Ghosn. ;)

I think that it is kind of bs for a driver, after he gets released, to then say this and that happened last year. He said the crash was an accident at the time. He shouldnt get to change his story now.

There have been a number of great drivers who have intentionally crashed in an effort to effect the outcome of a race (Schumacher, Senna). And they crashed into other cars. That seems worse to me than a guy driving into a guardrail on purpose.

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Originally Posted by ioan

Not doing so means you agree with the accusation and you are guilty beyond doubt.

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Not really, the burden of proof is still on the prosecution.

However, we do have Jr to provide that, don't we.

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Originally Posted by harsha

The Renault team not disputing the charges is as good as admitting guilt.

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Is it though. I think it is Renault officially saying 'fair cop guys, it looks like the F1 management have been naughty, of which we had no knowledge. The evidence is clear, and we do not intend to dispute.

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Originally Posted by ioan

I suppose you are right.
He should have to pay back all the financial loses for those who lost because of his actions.

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No, he should be forced to drop the soap in a showeroom full of STD infected inmates.