Virves ended 7th in 1th rally in the Norwegian championship with the Ford this weekend, tidemand 5th also in ford, behind Larsen, Veiby, Brynhildsen and Linnamäe, so maybe not to much hope.
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Virves ended 7th in 1th rally in the Norwegian championship with the Ford this weekend, tidemand 5th also in ford, behind Larsen, Veiby, Brynhildsen and Linnamäe, so maybe not to much hope.
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Tidemand apparently, it was the old R5 (according to ewrc).Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
But yeah, I took some notes, in 2022, the only championship a bit consistent where the Fiesta Rally2 was playing a role (multiple podiums or wins) is the Swedish championship ... which is in decline; well, at least it is consistent with the car.
Think it’s pretty much the end for this car at international level, a bit like the Peugeot 208 T16 in its time... well, only difference is that apparently they succeeded in selling (delivering to client to be more precise) a dozen in UK and Ireland in the last 12 months (probably some effects of logistics issues of competitors + Brexit? Maybe also, as they have a «*works*» RC2 team, they sold more car that have been already used so cheaper?). Could last 1 year or 2 still like this but probably not much more than that and it cannot help to come back at the international level.
Well, in the end, in terms of sales, they have reached 100 which is not that far from the Polo (and better than old Hyundai R5 with which Huttunen won WRC-3 or not very far away from the Citroen Rally2). Don’t know how they did but the commercial worked better than the sport side with this Fiesta (100 after 3 years and half is not huge but it could have been much less considering how much it has been outdated from the beginning).
Guys, do you live a fun life? ;)
https://www.ewrc-results.com/media/7...rlo-2023/3878/
Oliver Solberg:
https://twitter.com/OliverSolberg01/...48960571666434
Sean Johnston in Rallye Monte Carlo 2023 - Big Crash on Col de Turini:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-gPtt0hH7o
https://www.ewrc-results.com/media/7...rlo-2023/3880/
https://scontent.fopo5-2.fna.fbcdn.n...4g&oe=63D26C5AQuote:
Originally Posted by Danny0405
@Fabia
Yes it is faster on dry tarmac. But dry tarmac and fast gravel was where it specifically was expected to be better than old. So question remains if it now is slower on bumpy/narrow tarmac or slow gravel. Guess we will see first in Croatia.
@Fiesta on 1st round of Norwegian Rally Championship. Due to low temperatures for all but the last 4 stages there was insane ammount of hanging snow "dust". After first car it was basically like dense fog for everyone. I was there for 3 stages (in -22).
So I wouldn't read much into results.
Btw. Linnamae looked really uncomfortable first few stages and then visibly improved by the end.
It wasn't that bad on Saturday. On Friday it was worse, not helped that one of the stages were run at the military area.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmkmnQlHpNI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGu5uYeEcEU
With that being said. Tidemand in an older Fiesta and Virves in one of his first R5/Rally2 events are not the best ones to use for comparisons.
https://twitter.com/skodaautonews/st...94907174993920
So this is what Mikkelsen was doing with the Skoda in Sweden
At the 4x4 Winter Experience event in #Sweden, #Skoda organised co-drives with
@AMikkelsenRally
and
@Emil_Lindholm
in the new #FabiaRSRally2 in collaboration with
@MotorsportSkoda
. It was an out-of-this-world experience! ��
#SkodaExploresSweden ����❄️
Zaldivar sr (Hyundai I20 rally2): SWE, POR, ITA, EST, GRC, CHL
Villanueva (Skoda Fabia rally2 evo): SWE, POR, ITA, EST, FIN, GRC
Flattering words from Francois Delecour on the current state of R2 points to a winning formula.
The strength of the cars received a big nod from him, but it's his praise of the drivers which got me thinking how much has changed in the twenty-odd years since he left the prime stage. Today's driving is very much an exact science. Stray off the line and lose time. Or cook your tyres! There is less space to express yourself in the old-fashioned sense. Colin McRae exuberance just won't do today.
As for the cars, the chassis advancements and use of space-frames has transformed the two main categories a good deal. Don't think the tyres, and engine in R2, have been major fields of advancement though.
I still get confused when you say "R2" when referring to Rally2 because R2 still makes me think of a front-wheel drive car that we know now as Rally4. At least type Ra2 if Rally2 is too long, please :)
It's even worse with Rally1, R1 is close to a stock car, Rally1 has almost nothing from a stock car...
It took me a while to get used to it, too :)Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Richard Millener in denial it seems, at least publicly anyway.
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/m-spo...-rally2s-pace/
Also to put it down to the drivers performance is both insulting to Fourmaux and generally unbelievable. Even those who aren't fans of Fourmaux would find it hard to believe Gryazin is 2-3mins faster than Fourmaux on pace alone.
Looks like corporate-speak, defending the company and the product at all costs. Everyone in the rally world knows the truth so he just ends up looking silly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Corcaíoch
Well he is right that it was not Skoda 1-2-3 since there was a Citroen and a Hyundai on the podium.
So Skoda was seemingly not massively faster than everyone.
But everyone including Skoda were massively faster than Fiestas.
Behind the final results Gryazin and Solberg were impressive on stage times though.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
But let’s wait until Croatia and Portugal.
that's the point. he said accurate things...Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
...about the others! : )
Mikkelsen in a skoda, aiming for the european rounds and win them.
https://www.parcferme.no/jeg-plukker...urranse/175812
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Good, the young guns will have moment of truth when Mikkelsen starts. Either they are going to keep up with him or can't follow it will show more of true speed of these young guns.Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
Rally2 will be very-very good this year.
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I was surprised to find this: https://www.ewrc-results.com/entries...al-rally-2023/
The surprising bit isn't a rally in Qatar but that Lindholm, Östberg and Mikkelsen will be competing.
Quatar paid for them to start. Basically looked around and checked whom they could get at decent cost.
Does it say with which team?Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
No, but they presume toksport in the article.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
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According to the start list they are all with SRTQuote:
Originally Posted by RS
https://www.ewrc-results.com/entries...al-rally-2023/
The team question was about Mikkelsen's WRC2 season, not the Qatar rally
Yes, absolutely!Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
They have to beat the fastest wrc2 driver around to show their talent.
Good for the championship!
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Ups, sorry...Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Are they not at maximum capacity yet?! Lindholm, Pajari, Gryazin, Solberg, Bulacia (x2), Ingram, Greensmith, Delecour(?)..Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
Not all drives all races probably, but yeah, crowded servicefacilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Mikkelsen probably can get a deal with skoda/toksport based on history anyway.
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Are you sure Mikkelsen still is fastest?Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
Toksport is already running a Fabia RS Rally2 from Eurosol Racing Team in MC and Sweden. So don't know they've capacity enough. And it will be interesting to see if he brings sponsors with him or he renegotiated with Skoda Motorsport.
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Seems like a private funded deal from sponsors, he put a pirelli tyre on his Facebook today, they are probably a part of the deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
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Was last year, some good contenders this year, but he is the benchmark.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
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Ah I was wondering about the Eurosol car.Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
Let´s see.Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
Now it´s Mikkelsen having pressure. Could be kind of new situation for him.
very solid debut from Virves in Sweden, pushed only on couple of stages to see his speed and on those stages he set TOP3 times.
in Powerstage podcast he revelaed that he drove the whole weekend with the wrong seat, as i understand it was too big for him and on the technical and tricky parts it was actually very hard for him to handle the car cause he couldnt move his hands like he wanted. They had a smaller seat also as an option but that was too small and then the vision would have been bad.
What is the new situation for Mikkelsen?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
There is defenitly some drivers with the speed (Solberg, Gryazin, Rossel, Sunninen) in specific rallies, but Mikkelsen is fast on all the rallies.
I´m not all sure when he drove last time. And he wants to go to Rally1 car. That makes pressure.Quote:
Originally Posted by sturlabr
Hopefully there is no "I come and dominate it!" PR stuff from Mikkelsen, this didn't work out too well.
As a benchmark Mikkelsen is definitely valuable, however good are others, he is more stable than average WRC2 driver.
About his Rally1 target... What should happen that there are some (new) seat available?