Yep. Close thread. We now know his status and I disagree with Mintexmemory. If rejecting a guy who is among the three fastest drivers in Corsica, just tells me the evaluation is wrong.
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Yep. Close thread. We now know his status and I disagree with Mintexmemory. If rejecting a guy who is among the three fastest drivers in Corsica, just tells me the evaluation is wrong.
dont bother with Loeb haters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Nailed on to win in Spain and will probably do so, bowing out of the season in great fashion.
Not yet!Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
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Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
Well if you sussed that his "reflexes and concentration" have "faded" from you couch...what explains it when younger guys--with those lightning reflexes amateurs love to pontificate about----when they screw up and end up in a ditch?
As always, some review of the competition you did to arrive at your opinions would help us weigh your pronunciamentos
interesting interview with Elena
here are some parts.They are from google translate.
In the group of Saturday night, Tänak comes to you saying: "It's been 5 years that we train, it's been 5 years since you're gone and you are ahead of us, what the ..." This inspires you a special feeling ? That he was beaten by a small fat (Editor's note: laughs). Things have changed since we left. We talked about it on the road with Seb. In fact, they play it almost all star system. They ride mechanics every time they come out of the car, the perfect hairstyle, the glasses on the nose, and so on. Just before the Power Stage, we watched them, all were watching the first pass video to check what they could have possibly avoided or improved. We do not care. I was the only one who did not have the notebook. Okay, maybe if we play the championship, we will review the special with Seb on the road. But not watch the video. The old man has an excellent visual memory. But what have they become psychopaths ... I also find that the atmosphere is tense between them. It was different before.
Disappointed? No, but I have the impression that they all think of F1 drivers, which does not detract from their talent, but they are their star. Personally, I have never been. I just had the chance to live my passion. I take pleasure when I roll, without confusing my brain. They give the impression of the opposite. Sure, I would not like to see them every day. We have only one life: profi tons!
Are you proud of your "perf" of the weekend? No, we have become too professional: we stopped to change a wheel when we would never have done it before. I'm a wanker, for once I wanted to work, do well and we did a very bad job. So no, I'm not proud to finish 5th because we were shot on a wheel change. We were physically bad because we were totally disorganized and had not been trained to do it.
It will be done for the Tour de Corse ... No, otherwise it will bring us bad luck. By cons, with the team, we will address two or three essential points. Same with Seb in the organization of the car. When we both arrived in the wheel-change box, he took some equipment that I normally have to load and vice versa. It quickly stuck.
http://www.mathieuanneproduction.com...V-Elena_v1.pdf
I pointed this out numerous times, that current drivers watch vids of the stages so much they end up remembering almost every corner.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Loeb said also when he raced full time that he is very good at memorizing stages.
Anyway in Mexico as Elena claims they were the only ones who didn't watch the first pass before second and ended 6th (without Ogier penalty) with quite large gap to 5th. In Corsica the PS was ran just once and Loeb +Elena ended 2nd. Could off course be coincidence/road position/form.
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On related note I was ridiculed by you multiple times for pointing out just how much memorizing and vid-watching there is. Starting in Monte 2017 when Ogier claimed he knew the corner where he went off had open field on the outside. "Impossible", "Ogier lies", "So many corners on a rally nobody can remember them". Oh well
That's true. If you read Loeb's book, there is certain chapter in it, where Loeb describes this phenomenon. It's quite funny, behause Loeb says he thought all the drivers had the same ability. But one day he was talking to his team mate (I think it was Sordo, but I'm not sure) about some dangerous spots on the next stage and suddenly he realized that other drivers had no idea what spot he was talking about, because they couldn't memorize the stage as good as he did :)Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Bu the way, it's a great book. I bought it without big expectations and was surprised at how interesting it was. The Polish edition that I read is called "Moj styl jazdy" ("My driving style") and it looks like this:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sebastien-L...A9bastien+Loeb
listen carefully at the end
"I Loeb you"
"I Loeb you to"
It's a really strong marriage of long time rally fans.
https://youtu.be/4oqfyyEiSHA
Need that book in EnglishQuote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
I just lost 40 secs of time I will never get back.Quote:
Originally Posted by KiwiWRCfan
Jeez I've been away for too long. What I meant by that was that having high expectations wasn't justified. However, if and indeed he was able to keep up with the big names of today it would show how great he is. I don't think many other drivers would have been able to come back after such a long time with such changed cars and be competitive. I'm not a hater. Eventhough I don't root for him or his team I absolutely conceed that he is one of the alltime greats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
Me calling him a tourist driver wasn't trying to insult him but a means of saying even if he wouldn't perform, it wouldn't take away from his status of a worldclass driver.
OK, I get it. I just didn't know that calling a rally driver a tourist can be a positive comment :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Watson
I have just found out that the original French title is most probably "Ma ligne de conduite":Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
http://www.sebastienloeb.com/ma-lign...ebastien-loeb/
but I can't find any English edition of this book. Sorry :(
actually where Loeb has demonstrated he is an amazing driver is in my opinion:
- pikes peak
- xgames
there was a lot of pressure on those 1 day events, and he delivered. as simple as that.
You are trolling right?Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderem
eh, this thread just won't go away...
canadians...Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderem
years of existence, not a single use for them to this day....
Sebastien the first is eternal so is this thread :smokin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaps
I agree he is, that's exactly the reason this thread is superfluous.
Always great input NOT. never go past beyond minimum brain use, keep it up!Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Well, putting a performance in X-Games as a proof of anything isn't much better.Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderem
it was an opinion, not a proof.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Anyway time to go back and be a Canadian (as some forum member assume location = nationality). I will eat pancakes with maple syrup and watch hockey games whilst petting a bear.
Pikes Peake is a race with no rules at all. His car was very probably a lot faster then anything else on that mountain. If they would have put Matton in the car they would have won too...Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderem
And X-Games... it's a game. Nothing more then a show.
Canandians are not men enough to pet bears... Russians do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderem
As much as I agree with you that his car was a lot faster than the rest, it still takes a special kind of driver to remember 12.42 miles (19.99 km) over 156 turns (thanks Wikipedia), and deliver the most out of the car without crashing. If you look at previous winners at pikes peak (Millen, Dumas, Tajima), you will see that most people have been trying years after years before finally reaching top spot. Not entirely sure Matton would have won.Quote:
Originally Posted by dupanton
Canandians from the Canandie Island? New country?Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
no, but i do not bother with the spelling of irrelevant countries...Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderem
you will not win this kid... many tried... everyone fell.... i am just on a league of my own.
Oh NOT... without you this Forum would be very dull indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
I know... its hard work though and no proper replacement in the horizon either... i am not going to live forever you know.
Good riddance.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
lol... i really hurt you didn;t I ? sorry was not intentional...Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderem
still funny though.
if it gives you an hard on, be my guest :)Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Thats why nobody likes canadians... you are weird. in a bad way.Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderem
who said i was canadian?Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
the fun is over with you...Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderem
back on topic.
Tell him You're an alien.Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderem
I wanted to say Greek, so it would explain my attraction for men, but not sure he can take it.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
yeah same here, you provided great entertainment to make my day go quicker. Now back to petting my bear, as my location says Canada, i am automatically a Canadian, and do Canadian stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T