i guess you mean this ?
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i guess you mean this ?
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Yes. That´s what I mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
i found it on twitter and it was said to be official but i dont know if it really is.
FIA revealed today new WRC 2018 Calendar : 13 rounds include Turkey (NO Poland) & switch Espana ↔ GB → bit.ly/2wC6DBT
We will have 1,5 month without WRC event (10 june-26 july). Enough to put one more rally in Calendar (end of June!)
no, the teams need a break too.
The drivers have plenty of spare time.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Nice for the team members who do the real work to be able to have a nice Summer break.
well i had the same idea, i edited my post.
The 2018 calendar and the only interesting bit here: "There remains speculation of Italy's round moving back to the mainland and a northern Italian base."
Everything else as expected...no NZ, still Australia....and didn't they say a couple of years ago they wanted Japan back because of Toyota or something?
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/1...eturn-ratified
Hey, someone remind me, didn't a misplaced spectator actually die in Monte Carlo this year? Did they even get a 'yellow card' for that? No? But Poland loses its place in the calendar for bad spectator behavior?
"No!", you say, "it was because the organizers were stupid and allowed a fire truck to go onto a live stage!" Indeed, and they let a police car onto a live stage in rally Deutschland this year as well, though we heard nary a peep about that from our industrious rally journalists.
Corruption at its very best. I hate this sort of thing, I really do.
If you need any more proof that the only thing that matters for getting onto the calendar is money and political influence, just look at the debacle of letting China into the calendar last year, or the fact that we still have Australia (they've apparently got money to burn) and no New Zealand, even though everyone actually would prefer the latter.
As they say these days: "Money Talks" & unfortunately here we see the result...I agree they should have at least given a yellow card or something at least so the organizers try and make an effort to improve the safety on both MC & Germany events. As for Australia & NZ, it annoys me that from 2013 Australia has taken over the spot and tbh with Coffs Harbour having agreed to host the rally until 2020 makes it a strong candidate to stay beyond next year at the expense of NZ, especially when you have the teams complaining they can't go to Australasia twice....Quote:
Originally Posted by sonnybobiche
Another thing that bothered me was the fact they bring in Turkey with all that's going on there solely because they have the money...but no talks of Greece coming back? It used to be one of the toughest events on the calendar and a real car breaker... Now I know they had, well still have some hard financial times there but you would at least expect one of the (old) classic events (or at least one that could become a classic once more) to be given another look by both promoter and the FIA but again, money talks... or more specifically lack of money in this case.
Selfishly hoping the Italian round stays in Sardinia for at least one more season. Not managed to get there yet and it's on my list for 2018.
Sardegna on the island is a must! Loved it this year.
Cannot wait for Turkey, I'll be there!
Boo re Australia and no NZ. Balls.
As expected Poland is dropped, and Turkey is in; pretty uninspiring in my opinion. NZ is criminally ignored, in favour of an anaemic Australian event. And bizarrely, Rally of GB is moved forward to early October. What's that about? It's meant to be a late autumn event, with the chance of seasonal (frost, ice, etc) weather.
Has something to do with the british rally championship (including it into the wrc run)Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
looks like half term week next year then I'll be taking my boy to Spain instead of Wales...
We don't want anything to do with ice on GB. If they couldn't handle it 10 years ago they certainly won't now.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
I did think it was an interesting move though. I can't imagine the organisers were pushing for it - moving the event outside the school holidays. Happy to be proved wrong but I also doubt the addition of the BRC caused the move. This date switch was rumoured a while ago.
Hopefully the 2019 season will present us something better ;) (ehm New Zealand ehm)
Next year the tarmac rounds will be spread quite evenly around the calendar instead of having two of them back to back.
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Originally Posted by AnttiL
But stil i think there should be one extra tarmac event. Was kind of hoping Croatia would be in for 2018 instead of Turkey. Croatia could be partly tarmac, partly gravel than.
I would prefer rally Italia stays on Sardinia, nice event for spectators-crews-views,... Why do some of you want san remo so bad?
Also more fan of New zealand than Australia
Still though, IMHO it would be nice to see the RACC back to full tarmac as it was up until 2010. If any round should host a mixed event is Sanremo....as it used to until 1997 and take away the island rally of Sardenga.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
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Originally Posted by turves
Selfishly I was delighted by this, where I work we have allocated block annual leave and limitations on floating days... Getting half term off for Rally GB this year has been a right faff, and in the end, a rather expensive experience!Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
As for the calender, surely we have to presume that Turkey are only on it because they're bringing big money to the promoter. I've seen it said that we should be accepting of the likes of Turkey and Croatia because the funds they bring to the promoter will be reinvested into the sport... Well, we better see some meaningful enhancement of the WRC 'product' next year, because right now I want to argue that a 2018 inclusion of Rally New Zealand on the calender should have been at least partially funded by the money coming from Turkey! I hope someone will be able to discern where the Turkey money has gone...
Catalunya was mixed when it first came to the WRC in 1991. It became all tarmac in 1993. Portugal used to have tarmac stages back in the day as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
If Sardegna goes away, I'd like to see Acropolis or some other slower, rougher rally.
My bad, still would be nice to have it back to Tarmac and some night stages in the mix!!Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Yes Acropolis Rally of Greece would definitely would be a welcome return and if not Greece, Cyprus? used to be a real car breaker back in 2000-2006.
No round in Eastern Europe makes pretty sense...
Let's ignore a region where rallies are still quite popular (IMHO), and see if it helps the sport. If that was really the reason I would at least say that they are trying another approach...
We'll see what happens after next year, I have a feeling that with 13 (now 12) events wanting to join the calendar, there will be some changes come 2019 & beyond.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToKu
A NZ columnist gives his opinion about why there should be a WRC-rally in NZ. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?objectid=11925472
Agree with everything he says!!
I don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Why two events down under?
Because of Paddon?
FIA has no obligation to stimulate rallying.
It should be the other way around.
Only countries that have world rally champion should be admitet to WRC Calendar, plus one from each continent.
Here is the list:
England
Finland
France
Germany
Italy
Norway
Scotland
Spain
Sweden
North America
South America
Africa
Asia
Australia
well, i don't. But still, as Asian, i really want to see some Asian rally in WRC like India or China (not yet for my homeland, Indonesia. Still long way to go)Quote:
Originally Posted by jparker
And, of course, WRC rallies are chosen because of manufacturers pressure
Actually it has. The lack of FIA’s effective support to local ASN’s and even to the FIA regional series has been one of the reasons why worldwide rally expansion is stuck in reverse.Quote:
Originally Posted by jparker
Btw, I’m amazed with your exclusive ‘champions club’ view on WRC calendar. So just because there’s a WRC crowned compatriot, some lucky organizers would be granted for life, without any need to improve their events...that looks like a recipe to ruin the series.
Btw, should Belgium get a spot in the calendar if Neuville manages to be champ?
They could organise a WRC Rally without a problem. There could be stages in France too. Organisation is not the problem, money probably is. Otherwise there would have been a WRC in Ypres already (giving that the organizers of Ypres Rally are at the top of Hyundai WRT)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
What about Antarctica, it's a continent.Quote:
Originally Posted by jparker
I think it's an option. Sweden lacks of snow recently, maybe there is enough of it. And lots of spectators, if we count penguins.Quote:
Originally Posted by raybak
FIA alone can't build strong interest in rallying. Promoting WRC outside of Europe is pointless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
Tell me one champion that comes from country without strong rally presence?Quote:
Btw, I’m amazed with your exclusive ‘champions club’ view on WRC calendar. So just because there’s a WRC crowned compatriot, some lucky organizers would be granted for life, without any need to improve their events...that looks like a recipe to ruin the series.
Why not?Quote:
Btw, should Belgium get a spot in the calendar if Neuville manages to be champ?
Having this rule in place will stimulate other countries to invest in rallying more than anything else. Instead of praying FIA to accep them, it's all in their hands.
Does your family know of your condition ? or you express it only in this forum ? there is help you know... it will not do much but could be an improvement from what you are going through now...Quote:
Originally Posted by jparker
Wow very radical approach.You can send a letter to fia to consider this constructive thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by jparker
You are obviously clueless about how popular rallying is in places like NZ and Argentina.Quote:
Originally Posted by jparker
A junior motoring hack prone to scribing emotive nonsense and whose knowledge of rallying is so limited that he's clearly never heard of Jorge Recalde.Quote:
Originally Posted by BleAivano