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27th July 2015, 21:02
Miika

The main problem is/was, the clock wasn´t actually ticking today. Not until Thursday.
27th July 2015, 21:15
Mariusz

He is not the first one who made a mistake during a pre event testing and won't be the last one. But nothing is over for him, he is fine, nothing broken, right? So who knows, maybe his next time will be sooner than anybody expects. And if not, well, he's still a fast driver, just without enough money to practice.
27th July 2015, 21:34
janvanvurpa

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Originally Posted by AndyRAC

I feel for him - a fabulous opportunity, and it's ended before it really started. Should he really have been pushing so hard in testing? Probably not, but you never learn by driving slowly - even at a test.
Just shows that rallying is a 'cruel mistress' - unlike a circuit racer, you can't get away with mistakes - you're in the trees and the car is severely damaged.

Some drivers seem to get plenty of chances, without proving anything - yet this seemed to be his only chance. Sometimes the WRC seems like a 'closed shop'.

I hear you there on the "closed shop" thing, and how "this is the ONLY chance' for this guy or that and yet others can be "heroes" regardless.. There was that American guy who I think did 3 seasons before once not crashing on either SS1 or SS2 and limping around under Stupor Rally rule...What was his name? Ben Klock or something... Sure he was never even half serious driver, but dozens of times carshing car and no 4 -5 pages of 'the sky is falling"..We shimply shurgged and said that's how it goes, here's another couple of hundred thousand GBP for Malcolm and everything is fine...
27th July 2015, 21:41
Simmi

Comparing him with Block completely misses the point. It's not about ability it's about funding. It wouldn't be a closed shop for Lukyanuk if he had money. He doesn't and he blew a great shot to potentially attract more backing in the future.
27th July 2015, 21:46
janvanvurpa

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Originally Posted by Simmi

Comparing him with Block completely misses the point. It's not about ability it's about funding. It wouldn't be a closed shop for Lukyanuk if he had money. He doesn't and he blew a great shot to potentially attract more backing in the future.

Not comparing him to Klock..Lukie has gobs of talent, and clearly knows how to drive;

the other gobs of money....

I'm sorta hinting that the main problem is he says: money..
If he had money from "someplace' then he's be on the start of SS1, all problems solved..
Its a comment on the central and cynical role of money in what once had vestiges of a sport in it..
27th July 2015, 22:38
Rallyper

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Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

In my opinion this crash had nothing to do with being unfortunate. Had been on SS1 when the clock is ticking, then fine, but on a pre-event test before the most important start of his career, on his first run in Fiesta WRC, on first kilometres into the stage, not knowing how the car behaves, not knowing how the road behaves. He had limited test mileage (we don't know that for a fact), but still, why? Don't get me wrong, Lukyanuk is great character and simple pleasure to spectate on stages. After Otepää the question was why team bosses aren't fighting over him. After a maneuvor like today, if you were Capito, Matton or Nandan, would you give this guy a car?

Yes, for sure. Remember the great CMR!
27th July 2015, 23:05
HarriK

Heard that there might be chance still that Luky would be in rally start line... I still wonder...
27th July 2015, 23:23
danon

Loeb did it - champ
Ogier did it - champ
Kankkunen did it - champ
Sainz did it - champ
Makinen did it - champ
Solberg did it - champ
McRae did it - champ etc... etc...

Who doesn't? - You name it he dose it.
It's part of the game finding the limit.
There is a sign from above he got away intact.
Better crash prior the event than on the event itself.
If he's given the chance to start he could still turn into a surprise.

(Click on the pic to play the vid)

http://s5.postimg.org/d7t7vb9dz/colin_fin.jpg
27th July 2015, 23:28
SubaruNorway

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Originally Posted by HarriK

Heard that there might be chance still that Luky would be in rally start line... I still wonder...

Has anyone seen Henning's car? Like normal to not hear a single thing though, you usually know if he's there or not in shakedown...
27th July 2015, 23:44
samWRC

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Originally Posted by SubaruNorway

Has anyone seen Henning's car? Like normal to not hear a single thing though, you usually know if he's there or not in shakedown...

I noticed in service area that Motorsport Italia, which runs Rendina's Mitsubishi, was in the place where Henning's team should have been so I don't know if he is going to start.
28th July 2015, 00:48
N.O.T

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Originally Posted by danon

Loeb did it - champ
Ogier did it - champ
Kankkunen did it - champ
Sainz did it - champ
Makinen did it - champ
Solberg did it - champ
McRae did it - champ etc... etc...

did all these drivers total the car in their FIRST EVER test before their WRC debut ?
28th July 2015, 01:23
Grundo Farb

This probably also highlights that it is too big a jump from a production based rally car to a WRC spec car. Maybe a drive in a RRC might have been better. Other drivers have commented that the difference in suspension travel is the hardest thing to get used to.

But in the end, rally is all about experience, if you know the car and you know the stage you will go fast. Fast in Estonia in a car he knows versus fast in a WRC car in Finland are two different things. Not about nationalism but just a fact.

Walk before you run.
28th July 2015, 01:29
N.O.T

he already drove R5 and won in it 3 times... the step was logical since he is already in his mid 30s.
28th July 2015, 01:39
sollitt

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

he already drove R5 and won in it 3 times... the step was logical since he is already in his mid 30s.

Absolutely. He's a wonderful talent and very entertaining. It's a great shame we won't see him this weekend. Let's hope he gets another chance.
28th July 2015, 01:43
danon

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

did all these drivers total the car in their FIRST EVER test before their WRC debut ?

It doesn't matter at all he totaled the car in his first WRC debut.
If one day he makes it to the top he'll be the odd man out changing the statistics.
28th July 2015, 01:45
N.O.T

that is a big IF...

you used all these names without any logic then.
28th July 2015, 01:51
danon

Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.
28th July 2015, 03:54
sollitt

Interesting that you would use the McRae 1000 Lakes clip. In contrast not only was the damage inflicted 'on event' but he actually brought the car home in a points scoring position.
28th July 2015, 10:32
Rallyper

And on both cars (CMR and AL) looks like the wheels pointing the right direction...
28th July 2015, 12:59
306 Cosworth

Quote:

Originally Posted by danon

Loeb did it - champ
Ogier did it - champ
Kankkunen did it - champ
Sainz did it - champ
Makinen did it - champ
Solberg did it - champ
McRae did it - champ etc... etc...

Who doesn't? - You name it he dose it.
It's part of the game finding the limit.
There is a sign from above he got away intact.
Better crash prior the event than on the event itself.
If he's given the chance to start he could still turn into a surprise.

(Click on the pic to play the vid)

http://s5.postimg.org/d7t7vb9dz/colin_fin.jpg

I didn't realise those guys were given the best car in the world and then promptly crashed it after driving it for just 3km.
28th July 2015, 13:01
306 Cosworth

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Originally Posted by danon

It doesn't matter at all he totaled the car in his first WRC debut.
If one day he makes it to the top he'll be the odd man out changing the statistics.

Yes it does matter. Quite a lot actually. This guy will never be at the top of WRC.
28th July 2015, 13:35
N.O.T

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Originally Posted by 306 Cosworth

Yes it does matter. Quite a lot actually. This guy will never be at the top of WRC.

he will probably never be in the WRC let alone the top...
28th July 2015, 13:38
WUff1

Well, time seems to get short for Lukas now. He can´t even fund an ERC campaign, let alone other WRC starts. But Motorsport always has been cruel, lot of pay drivers on the lucky end and fast talented drivers without a chance to start on the other hand.

There´s no way to exchange the Bertellis with Lukyanuks realistically.
28th July 2015, 13:52
Rallyper

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Originally Posted by WUff1

Well, time seems to get short for Lukas now. He can´t even fund an ERC campaign, let alone other WRC starts. But Motorsport always has been cruel, lot of pay drivers on the lucky end and fast talented drivers without a chance to start on the other hand.

There´s no way to exchange the Bertellis with Lukyanuks realistically.

If Bertelli was a wise man he could make history being able to help a fast driver doing something in WRC. And make himself a teamboss for a couple ofcoming men, instead of burning money on himself. But the story seems not happen.
28th July 2015, 14:01
N.O.T

WRC needs bertelli, you do not see everyday a girl in a WRC car... it is good promotion for women in motorsports.
28th July 2015, 14:09
nafpaktos

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rallyper

If Bertelli was a wise man he could make history being able to help a fast driver doing something in WRC. And make himself a teamboss for a couple ofcoming men, instead of burning money on himself. But the story seems not happen.

He likes to drive,if i had money i would do the same.you say if he was a wise man he should be a team boss promoting new talents.you think thay he is not a wise man because he spends money to what he loves???????????????????????
28th July 2015, 14:10
nafpaktos

Quote:

Originally Posted by N.O.T

WRC needs bertelli, you do not see everyday a girl in a WRC car... it is good promotion for women in motorsports.

Please dont fuck the conversation!
28th July 2015, 14:22
AL14

Bertelli is not occupying Lukyanuk or other drivers place. I think he doesn't belong to WRC but he has nothing to do with Lukyanuk.
28th July 2015, 14:24
nafpaktos

Recce without participate because you destroyed the car.how goog is this??:(

http://s16.postimg.org/uwy1ngh39/image.jpg
upload jpg
28th July 2015, 14:24
306 Cosworth

Quote:

Originally Posted by AL14

Bertelli is not occupying Lukyanuk or other drivers place. I think he doesn't belong to WRC but he has nothing to do with Lukyanuk.

Why doesn't he belong in WRC? It's his money, he can spend it how he wants. I'd do the same if I was a billionaire.
28th July 2015, 14:29
AL14

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Originally Posted by 306 Cosworth

Why doesn't he belong in WRC? It's his money, he can spend it how he wants. I'd do the same if I was a billionaire.

I think we already did this conversation. Don't we? Or maybe it wasn't with you. It is Off Topic actually.
BTW, one thing is if it's fair that he has the possibility or he is allowed to do drive in WRC (of course it's fair), another thing is if he belong to the sport...

Sorry everyone for OT.
28th July 2015, 14:42
Mirek

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Originally Posted by nafpaktos

Recce without participate because you destroyed the car.how goog is this??:(

Why not? He can participate next year. Nobody says he can drive NORF only with WRC car.

Guys, we have created 9 pages of largely nonsense since Alex crashed :eek:
28th July 2015, 15:04
nafpaktos

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Originally Posted by Mirek

Why not? He can participate next year. Nobody says he can drive NORF only with WRC car.

Let me rephrase,how can he feels doing recce for the rally which was for him the BIG chance and now it's not.
28th July 2015, 15:32
Mirek

He must get over that. There are worse things in human life.
28th July 2015, 15:35
Fast Eddie WRC

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Originally Posted by Mirek

There are worse things in human life.

He knows that.. he is the one that campaigns for peace in Ukraine.
28th July 2015, 15:48
Ounin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mirek

Why not? He can participate next year. Nobody says he can drive NORF only with WRC car.

Guys, we have created 9 pages of largely nonsense since Alex crashed :eek:

Nonono nonsense at all, you have to read between the lines and draw the conclusion how immense popular this guy is. And that's good, I read more negativeness on this forum than positiveness.
30th July 2015, 20:39
janvanvurpa

Quote:

Originally Posted by nafpaktos

Recce without participate because you destroyed the car.how goog is this??:(

http://s16.postimg.org/uwy1ngh39/image.jpg
upload jpg

i like his spirit.
Good for him..
31st July 2015, 08:08
rallyfiend

Well, he's paid for it, may as well do it!
16th August 2015, 21:42
dimviii

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3te..._55c4d5973.jpg
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3te..._55c4d596a.jpg

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/index.p...66e593239a93ee
17th August 2015, 00:49
Rallyper

It still hurts VERY much seeing the man defeated by himself.

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