Could I respectively request that you do your homework, per capita NZ out performs every other country in the world sports wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by kirungi okwogera
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Could I respectively request that you do your homework, per capita NZ out performs every other country in the world sports wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by kirungi okwogera
Breen's b) is a little different to Paddon's b). It didn't involve moving to a different hemisphere, far from family, friends, culture and his own business!
Breen picked b) and has driven like 4 different cars in multiple championships. But for him it was by far much easier choice since he lives in Europe and his girlfriend (still afaik) is from Italy. So driving in Ireland and Italy is both like driving "at home". So it was an obvious and easy choice for him, but one that also gives him much higher chances than Paddon in the long run.[/QUOTE]
The WRC does not care how far one lives or where his girlfriend currently resides. He chose to stay in NZ which means he's not on anyone's radar sadly. Winning events in NZ by eleventeen minutes means nothing to WRC teams... Plenty of examples like Hayden around the world..
I imagine Breen has it easier to find sponsors in Europe compared to Paddon - especially in Ireland.
I don't know about that. The competition is also a lot bigger in europe.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Didn't Paddon used to live in Italy awile ago? Maybe try out in Italy again.
I think it's getting bit funny. Maybe he should try living in Finland, Rovampera is from Finland...Oh wait maybe Japan, Takamoto is getting close to works drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
IMO Hayden is right now closest to works team that driver can be, but he is just backstabbed big time.
I didn't live in Italy. He went to Italy for training and had a sardinian gf for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
This isn't meant as disrespect, sorry if it came off that way. I lived in NZ for six years and consider it my second home country. During that time I worked almost exclusively in sports media.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mk2 RS2000
You are right, per capita, NZ outperforms pretty much everybody; and I am right, in terms of sheer numbers, especially when you limit it to sports that are globally watched (so, excluding rugby, league, cricket, netball and the like), NZ does not have a load of global-level sports personalities for a sponsor to choose from. Olympians, yes, but not a whole lot else.
E.g. per capita, Valerie Adams' family has an unreal number of Olympic medals, but there's still only one of her.
Is, is WRC really a globally watched sport?
Well obviously there are some people from different countries watching it but Rallying is only a relevant sport in 2 countries I would think. Estonia and Finland.
The MOST watched sport, no; no motorsport is that except yeah maybe Estonia and Finland with rally. But it's a global competition with a large audience across the world. Not as big as F1, nor football, but still big, and not limited to a small number of countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by krissucool
Could I respectfully suggest Carl that this claim is NZ media bullshit with no basis whatsoever. I am embarrassed for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mk2 RS2000
Yes, NZ is good at sport. May even punch above their weight. But anything more is nonsense.
I read about a possible m-sport drive for Paddon in Finland but it is an article without sources (he just talk about finnish tabloid... but doesn't link to anything).
I guess it's almost clickbait, let's see..
With the support of great people
https://www.hyundai.co.nz/paddon-rea...NCJkfZefxxQxKo
Wonder what Hyundai Korea thinks about that....Quote:
Originally Posted by Mk2 RS2000
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Anyway I will repost what I wrote in the NRF thread, cause it will likely get lost there:
I actually think Paddon can fight for podium as the Fiesta has showed it is fast on fast stages this year and Paddon was fast in Finland previously.
However the big question is what next?
Is he doing this just cause he is pissed off at Hyundai and does not have any money/plan for other rallies just hoping it will sort itself (aka. Atkinson 2009)? If he only does Finland then even a podium won't be enough to secure him a seat next year.
EDIT: Might be that while he does not have a plan for rest of the year he sees that if he doesn't show up in Finland and prove he can be fast (which is very likely) he will definitely drop out as important deals are likey made in next month or two. He can't expect to do well in Germany and Turkey in mid-september is too late and most drivers could be signed by then. Looking at it that way it does make good sense to start in Finland even without a plan.
[QUOTE=mknight;1222822]Wonder what Hyundai Korea thinks about that....
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Think this part of Andy Sinclair's statement makes it very clear what the stance of Hyundai NZ is.
Sinclair adds: “Hayden is a Hyundai NZ driver and ambassador, and most importantly, he is representing New Zealand, which means more to us than what model of car he is driving. As a 100 per cent Kiwi-owned company, our decision to support a New Zealand sportsperson of Hayden’s calibre is easy. Hayden is, and will continue to be, a fine ambassador for the Hyundai brand in New Zealand. He’s a New Zealander competing on a global scale with international fame, yet has
remained humble, grounded and rooted to his home country
If he sticks on the podium that'd be a huge result, top 5 would be a solid finish after a lengthy break from the WRC.
If he beats Breen he has the peace of mind that he should have been the driver in the seat (based on pace). We have no idea of the business decision behind Hyundai choosing Breen (money, trial for 2020 etc.) and glad to see both drivers back in cars for Finland. Should be a great event.
Makes total marketing sense for Hyundai to get Breen on board. Hyundai is a significant brand in Ireland. Hyundai Tucson has been a market leader in Ireland.
With the electric power cable to be laid between France and Ireland - it will be straight forward for Ireland to power an electric vehicle fleet on a 'not too big' island. Hyundai has a number of additional electric vehicles planned to go with the full electric vehicles that they already sell. (Something Paddon already plans for, (the paddon team hyundai i30 tcr race car purchase, and paddon could possibly have a stronger electric vehicle future with Hyundai NZ than he might have with another brand)
Ireland intends to invest in renewable type power - wind turbines that might send surplus power to France and Ireland get nuclear power when the winds are not blowing enough.
https://cleantechnica.com/2019/03/04...p-541-in-2019/ (Hyundai Kona etc)
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-...rket-1.3719699 (Hyundai Tucson - ireland)
Now Paddon is hot on the market again. Doing good job in Finland will do him even better.
Happy for Paddon. I wish him to beat Hyundai in Finland in a straight fight just for karma reasons...
I think you totally misread this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
This deal seems to be a "needed" move from Paddon to at least be considered by other teams for next year.
From the press releases and sponsors it looks like a "paid" drive by him and his sponsors. As I wrote just a few posts above it actually is a good idea cause deals are surely starting to take form by now and he can't wait until Turkey to show himself again.
Can't see that he got "hot on the market" after being ignored by Hyundai...just as he has been for last 7 months.
Happy for him. I thought that that rumor wasn't much reliable but it turned out it was.
I don't know how fast he will be with a client Fiesta and after so many months without driving any WRC car but I will be rooting for him that weekend.
Yes unfortunately he will have to learn a new car, but he could get lucky and the car can be a good fit for him. Kind of like Andreas going well with the C3 WRC.
I choose to believe that Hayden and his NZ sponsors read my posts about his marketability to sponsors if he does world championship events even if not in a Hyundai car, and were convinced by my cogent arguments
He owes youQuote:
Originally Posted by kirungi okwogera
Andreas goes well only under huge pressure that threaten his career it seems.Quote:
Originally Posted by racerx1979
All of his wins and competitive podium places except for sweden have come when he's either been under threat to be booted out (aus 16, arg 19 after having been benched in Corse) or when he's looking for a new drive (the C3 tarmac outings and Hyundai trials).
Remember, Poland in the C3 he did pretty bad in.
I'm not sure if it's coincidence or a thing but a steady secure Andreas seem to be a slow Andreas.
1) This is Paddon threadQuote:
Originally Posted by itix
2) While sometimes Mikkelsen indeed does well under pressure 2 of his 3 wins came without any pressure.
True, that was me going off topic. My bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Another way to look at it is that Andreas does well on rallies where his car is strongest car. .Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
Up until Rally Sardegna 2019 Andreas Mikkelsen has 25 podiums. On 13 of those Podiums he has been part of a team P1-P2 or a team P1-P2-P3
Ponder this for a moment.
I very much doubt we would find anyone else with over 1/2 their podiums looking like this. I did have a look at Dani Sordo as a most likely to be similar. Dani has 45 podiums of which 17 were P1-P2 or P1-P2-P3 so just over 1/3
where is that guy called nose ends first who worked with Paddon and was here a few years ago??
Lundefaret... I don't know, I was in contact with him, we still are even friends on FB but I don't have had any more contact with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
I loved his endless posts and his Nose End First "obsession" even if I didn't always agree.
I'm not sure how much a client Fiesta differs from a works Fiesta. Msport has very few cars, almost all have been used in 2019 by works entries. Also i would assume Msport sees potential in Paddons entry, so i'm sure he will get as good spec as possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
He's also running for manufacturer points. In M-Sport there's a fine line between a "client" car and a "works" car.Quote:
Originally Posted by kiil
It has all to do with him doing the wast majority of his WRC starts in VW with Ogier. (dominant car/driver). Just like Sordo did most with Loeb in Citroen.Quote:
Originally Posted by KiwiWRCfan
Citroen was never as dominant as VW in 2013-2015, which also explains the difference.
I don't know. Maybe you are right considering these new cars. In the previous wrc-specs cars there was a difference between customers and official cars. Hope now it's different as you say.Quote:
Originally Posted by kiil
While I think Paddon would be putting up over 50% of cost of running car I think M-Sport would be putting in some investment to this drive as they would see more value in having Paddon drive their car compared to someone like Bertelli, Block or Bouffier.
The deal came about quickly, seemingly at the moment it's one rally and we're talking about Malcolm. No reason to believe he didn't pay the same price as Bouffier, Tidemand or Greensmith, at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grutz
probably fired by paddon probably because he realised he was a clownQuote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
IIRC Lundafaret was working with Ostberg in 2017, and maybe other drivers too? Not sure about now, the Nose End First facebook page hasn't had any posts since mid 2017.
i used to chat quite often with him on facebook but at one moment He just suddenly disappeared.Quote:
Originally Posted by GravelBen
dont know what happened, i hope everything is okay.