Lappi 1 min faster than Salo on the last stage.
Nikara went off... Brave heart! But that was crazy to go for the win!
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Lappi 1 min faster than Salo on the last stage.
Nikara went off... Brave heart! But that was crazy to go for the win!
Amberg has been fast all day too.
I had an awesome rally day, great atmosphere, nice people, compact route and no hurry - really pleasurable, made me remember why I love this sport so much. :) Only minus was some camera troubles, damn battery somehow failed! Luckily I managed to DIY-repair it. Really embarrasing moment to film video with my sister's Canon Ixus... Can't help laughing to it now though. :D
Car number 101... Marko Mänty, with an "old" Civic seriously kicking ass - 3rd overall, that's insane! In 4WD, pretty much the usual story. Lappi and Ferm secured their first championship win with a great performance. Check out this big moment (and the reactions ;) ) on the final stage: EPL Incar Merikarvia 2012 - Printsport Pictures Salo ran into small technical problems as driveshaft failed on the last stage, losing about half a minute. Nikaras once again showed great speed but on SS5 the road wasn't enough, going off, first hitting rocks and the head on to a tree, quite bad damage to the car.
In 2WD, Mänty's speed was incredible. Jaro Kinnunen with new codriver, for some reason, lost a lot, not at his usual level, I don't know what was the main reason. In smaller FWD category SM3 Amberg/Heikkinen were dominant, no real threat from anyone else during the rally.
My (improvised :P) video coming tomorrow.
could somebody post a link to the results please? thx
TulossivuQuote:
Originally Posted by Adler
Maybe better one from tenab:
Merikievari SM-Ralli********************************* SM1
Merikievari SM-Ralli********************************* SM2
Merikievari SM-Ralli********************************* SM3
My video from Merikarvia:
My photos from Merikievari SM-Ralli:
Merikievari SM-Ralli Gallery
CAUTION! If you are crash sensitive, don't open that link ;)
There are sadly only two top drivers in 4wd championship ( + Nikara outside of the championship) after Pajunen ran out of money. Sad to see such great championship being in as bad state as the WRC.
Isn't it as simple as the requirement for Homologated car and homologated parts makes them too expensive to keep running?Quote:
Originally Posted by COD
How is F Cup doing?
After that Tiippana and Nikko have some speed and also veteran Vihavainen (by the way 2nd Finnish Junior Championship 1987 driving the Opel Ascona 400) is still able to show great driving, but others are like tourists...Quote:
Originally Posted by COD
But have to remember that there is tight fight also in the 2wd front-wheel drive series. Despite the fact that Lindroos lost his chance at VW last year he is one of the fastest 2wd drivers and won the title easily. Also Mänty, Korhonen, Amberg, Hautamäki, Vainionpää, Kinnunen and Pinomäki would be the top ten 2wd drivers in every national series...
Not as simple as that, as homologation requirements have been significantly eased in last years. Mistakes in promotion etc have had effect and general lack of interest...Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
F-cup is F-cup, great as such, but doesn't alone produce any WRC-class talents.
Joooo I know, but at least you have F cup. I think it functions as a good base or "grund", and can be a great end in itself, but I understand the need for something inline, more or less, with "Hinter-national" rules for those who think they want to go see the outside rule...Quote:
Originally Posted by COD
Tell me abouut the promotion...I can't follow that because you Finnish speaking Finns oppress the almost invisible minority of Swedish speaking Finns and don't print every rally magazine in both languages... and therefore, even all this was over here, I suffer from your cruelty to your Swedish speaking brothers.....and can read nothing of the 'in-house' stuff. (sniffle---snof)
:bigcry:
Entries for the last FRC event in Kerava (September 14.-15.) closed earlier this week. Lappi will use his last chance to drive as first car on the route for many years, as he says, but Salo is of course missing due to Proton commitments.
In 2WD Lindroos is back to C2 now that he secured his title, and also Kristian Sohlberg who debuted in DS3 R3T as a co-driver in Germany takes the driver's seat now.
Also, if the information transfers correctly from my eyes to my brains, Jari Ketomaa in historic VW Golf GTi. On the date he was supposed to start in WRC Wales...
Yes, you´re right don´t worry ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
Jari is on the entries with Janne Lindberg´s Golf GTi. He used to drive that kind of Golf in the rallysprint youth class and early rallies... Jari Ketomaa | Jari Ketomaa
F-Cup continued today with Autoglym Ralli after a very long pause. I did a small spectating journey, nothing special in our places. Rally was won by Jaska Nuorala, 2nd Nevanpää (+29,3) and 3rd Kallio (+31,6). Cup-leader Timo Jaakonsaari had problems and was sixth.
Good moment from SS1: :D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2ummKgA3cA
And some actions from the SS 2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
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You must have a lot of spare parts there ;)
Oi! Oi! Oi! OI!Quote:
Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
Guess those guys will need to buy new Nomex :eek:
That doesn't wash out!
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Found this from facebook
"Thousand lakes rally Finland 1985, golden age of groub B, Notes, 4wd, Peugeot, Lancia etc..
SS 43 Sarvana. Lenght 6.49km.
1. H.Toivonen 4.04
2. TSalonen 4.07
3. S.Blomqvist 4.09
4. K.Grundel 4.10
5. P.Eklund 4.11
6. M.Alen 4.15
Year 2012 Autoglym rally F-Cup. Blind rally so no notes, 2wd, No turbo. Golf, Corolla, Volvo..
SS 5 Sarvana Lenght 6.50km
According to spectator quide the stage is exactly the same as 1985 in Thousand lakes rally.
1. Timo Jaakonsaari 4:02,7
2. Jere Rekola 4:05,1
3. Jari Huuhka 4:05,2
4. Toni Kuhanen 4:07,0
5. Kimmo Nevanpää 4:07,1
;)
I've filmed these extremely loud sounding Porsches 911 964 SC Rally Special during the 2012 Rally Ronde Gomitolo di Lana!
Porsche 911 SC Rally Special INSANE SOUND! - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n6HB0AgS3U
But wasn't the Lancia's of Toivonen and Alen 2WD (Lancia Rally 037).Quote:
Originally Posted by Co-FIN
Of course. But so are F-Cup cars too. Of course there are many factors in this, but it makes a nice myth. :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach 2
The technical regulations in F-Cup is quite free and if they’re using more advanced components compared to the 1985 ones (example dampers) so maybe the handling of even an elder car makes them faster.
TimoJaakonsaari VW 19 Golf GTi 16V
Jere Rekola M-B 2.3 16V
Jari Huuhka BMW M3
Toni Kuhanen Toyota Corolla 1600 GT
Kimmo Nevanpää BMW 325i
Not to talk how much the road can change in those years - a lot...
Speaking of road conditions, are you sure it wasn't raining heavily back in 85?Quote:
Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
There's been talk on the subject in Finnish forums and the heritage says the road was wet in 1985 (at least morning dew, but it was raining last Saturday) and the stage started at 6.15 AM in late August so some of the dusk have been left. It was also one of the last stages, fight for victory was over and also at that point in the rally the drivers have driven more or less 36 hours straight without much of a sleep. Still, it was 1985, heyday of group B, teams doing recce on the stages ad nauseum, Toivonen, Alen, Blomqvist, Salonen, etc. Like it've been pointed, suspension, tyres, etc. have developed a lot. Also the road must've changed - that I could later check from a relative living by that stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
But like said, makes a nice myth - and also means that the top drivers, not just the few of them, in F-Cup drive very fast and respectfully.
Last event of Finnish rallying championship is under way in Kerava at the moment. Top drivers are already through SS5, and of course, Esapekka Lappi is leading. It's interesting however that at the same time his early season opponents are driving elsewhere, Juha Salo with Proton in APRC Japan and Mikko Pajunen with Ford in IRC Yalta. Thus young Jussi Tiippana is currently second in close battle with Joni Nikko in third.
In 2WD after SS4 Ville Hautamäki and Jaro Kinnunen are fighting for the win. Joonas Lindroos switched backed to C2 for this rally and he is leading the SM3 class, but having a close battle with Andreas Amberg.
Historic rally driver Jari Ketomaa retired on SS2 as technical problems hit his VW Golf GTi.
Last stage starts 16.59 Finnish time. Results here: Tulossivu
How is Kristian Sohlberg doing ?
Retired after SS4. Technical reason. At the time he was second in class, 2,9 seconds behind Hautamäki.Quote:
Originally Posted by veegog
Here's another link for results: Online1 valikko
And Lappi wins it. I'd say first driver ever to win all rounds of Finnish championship. Time for him to move on.
I absolutelly agree that he must move on ! International program for 2013 will be a must !
I don't think that will be much of a problem for him since he has the same management as Andreas Mikkelsen.Quote:
Originally Posted by veegog
There's a Skoda UK Motorsport drive going spare next year I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by EightGear
Skoda Motorsport gave him a drive for Rally Poland. That means that their cooperation may continue the next year(s). Pity that it's again a Fabia S2000 and not another car (Peugeot or Fiesta).Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Everybody says "suspension and tires must have improved a lot since...last week 10 years---GpB days...whatever" But I kknow what the GpB cars then for suspension, and I know the top modern cars have bigger and longer travel struts, but I believe the average F-cup guy has very similar suspenders to what then GpB guy had---not better.. (40mm inverted struts and about 200-210mm travel). Tires same, more people now had what was then the top stuff. What do you think?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
Others could do that as well ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by tolis
The last championship round in Kerava was a lot of fun. Some of the stages weren't very challenging, but the close fight with Lindroos and Korhonen was a lot of fun. More about the rally in my blog Rally Co-driver: Talotekniikka10 ralli 15th of September 2012, Kerava
I Think Pasi Hagstrom did it also in 1999 with WRC Corolla, so not the first ever. But nevertheless a great job from young champion :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori