DiRT3

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Originally Posted by bennizw

I really hope 1 1/2 minute stages don´t take up a majority of the game. If so, it´s even worse than WRC 5.

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I've started a thread on Codies forum about this, hopefully they will take it as a constructive critic ;)

I twitted Paul Coleman, to confirm If the majority of stages In the game are so short,
and how many stages of each country, are over 1:20!!!

(Keep In mind, that after some practice, time for those short stages, will drop down to around 1min...)

Can't believe WRC3 has some very long stages and we can't have a few 7/8 km stages in Dirt3 :s

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Originally Posted by pino

Can't believe WRC3 has some very long stages and we can't have a few 7/8 km stages in Dirt3 :s

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Perhaps the target market don't have the attention span?

"Moooooooooooooooooom! Make the rally racing game stop being so long and realistic!!!!" :(

" I would be asleep if stages were 8 min long " that's a quote from Codies forum :s Personaly I start to get warm after driving the first 2 min...how can someone fall asleep ?

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Originally Posted by pino

" I would be asleep if stages were 8 min long " that's a quote from Codies forum :s Personaly I start to get warm after driving the first 2 min...how can someone fall asleep ?

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They're not into rallying obviously :) The thing with DiRT games is that the handling is fairly innocuous so as long as you don't try to go too fast around the corners you're not likely to have problems, boring.

Long stages also give you a good option if you have an off. With really short stages you make one mistake and that's it, whereas with a proper stage you can be 5 seconds down at the first split but then hammer it through to be up by the finish. It's so disappointing, I even feel that a 3 minutes stage is too short so to have one under 2 minutes is just pointless. Proof again that Codemasters are talking **** when they say that they're bring the franchise back to proper rallying.

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Originally Posted by barryfullalove

Long stages also give you a good option if you have an off. With really short stages you make one mistake and that's it, whereas with a proper stage you can be 5 seconds down at the first split but then hammer it through to be up by the finish. It's so disappointing, I even feel that a 3 minutes stage is too short so to have one under 2 minutes is just pointless. Proof again that Codemasters are talking **** when they say that they're bring the franchise back to proper rallying.

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Proper rally racing maybe :laugh:

I'll admit there simply isn't a market for a proper hardcore rallying game. If they did turn DiRT into a proper rallying game then little 13 year olds would be crying into their Monster because they can't make it through the first corner.

But there is a trade off, CMR2 was a fairly decent rally game and that sold well (I think). The stages still weren't quite as long as a lot of us would hope but at least there was only 1 or 2 stages out of 11 (per country) that was under 2 minutes.

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Originally Posted by barryfullalove

But there is a trade off, CMR2 was a fairly decent rally game and that sold well (I think). The stages still weren't quite as long as a lot of us would hope but at least there was only 1 or 2 stages out of 11 (per country) that was under 2 minutes.

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and short stages are a part of it as well. It's nice to have a manic sprint :)

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Proper rally racing maybe :laugh:

I'll admit there simply isn't a market for a proper hardcore rallying game. If they did turn DiRT into a proper rallying game then little 13 year olds would be crying into their Monster because they can't make it through the first corner.

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Sad but true...

Can you imagine what these people would think of Rally Championship 2000 nowadays? Pundershaw was a 43km+ stage that took literally over 20min to complete and it was in poor conditions most of the time. Actually that whole Pirelli Rally was really tough to get through in one piece and Scotland was a really challenge.

DiRT3 damage system video:

[YOUTUBE]f79S1S8AzKQ[/YOUTUBE]

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Originally Posted by lcd

DiRT3 damage system video:

[YOUTUBE]f79S1S8AzKQ[/YOUTUBE]

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What about the penalty system? I saw some people do some stuff in that video on a Finnish stage which I'm sure would get you excluded from the rally or get a few race bands.

More info please.

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Originally Posted by lcd

I twitted Paul Coleman, to confirm If the majority of stages In the game are so short,
and how many stages of each country, are over 1:20!!!

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No response so far;Paul usually responds very quickly...I guess you can Imagine why.
Regarding penalties, nothing's mentioned so far and I don't really think there will be any.
Such things sound very 'hardcore' to CM Daniel. :D

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Originally Posted by pino

" I would be asleep if stages were 8 min long " that's a quote from Codies forum :s Personaly I start to get warm after driving the first 2 min...how can someone fall asleep ?

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This is something that i really dont understand from codemasters.... they want rally back,... oke they took the cars back.... but again where are the rules?
By the rules this time i mean stage length... okej i can understand not every one want to drive 10 min long.... but to be honestly in fact , rally stages in real are 8-10 min long...just accept this, beside that u got 5 rewind things! i mean u can drive at least 2 min w/o rewind, i mean thats not so hard isnt it? And beside that it DOES make the gameplay longer...

And the long stages makes the sport again so excited! I mean u can lose minutes whit a flat tire or a broken steering wheel.. and that is where its all about in rally.... Drive as fast as possible from A to B with as less damage as possible ... and the fastest wins the rally! with just 1 min stage its not even challenging specially whit 5 rewinds AND after each stage a service..... this isnt like a rally game because u will drive everything perfect...... sad but true... and yes u can ignore the service and yes u dont have to use the rewinds... but i am talking in name of the rally sport and u should reserved in its value.

Its such a shame... Codemasters got the perfect things... they got good developed cars, a Handling system for Sim and arcade drivers! , changing weather systems ( in F1) what they should use on the 8 min rally stages, they got the information from the Professional rally drivers, the graphic engine is fantastic! they got the good car sounds...

but where its all about " the rally rules / stage ..." that just the thing that what they missed... sadly its the important thing off all ... Sometime i am asking myself when does Codemasters awake from this dream and just accept that rally = long stages and not just look at the 13 years old kids that cant play longer then one and a half min stages with 3 rewinds in it...

I am not talking about a SIM stage, with the real environment and the very narrow stages.... but just about the lenght

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Originally Posted by lcd

No response so far;Paul usually responds very quickly...I guess you can Imagine why.
Regarding penalties, nothing's mentioned so far and I don't really think there will be any.
Such things sound very 'hardcore' to CM Daniel. :D

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Well if someone came up alongside another driver at NORF and pushed them off the road I'd expect a ban OR have they invented some stupid thing where rally race each other on a stage. VTEC kicked in yo! :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Rallylegend

This is something that i really dont understand from codemasters.... they want rally back,... oke they took the cars back.... but again where are the rules?
By the rules this time i mean stage length... okej i can understand not every one want to drive 10 min long.... but to be honestly in fact , rally stages in real are 8-10 min long...just accept this, beside that u got 5 rewind things! i mean u can drive at least 2 min w/o rewind, i mean thats not so hard isnt it? And beside that it DOES make the gameplay longer...

And the long stages makes the sport again so excited! I mean u can lose minutes whit a flat tire or a broken steering wheel.. and that is where its all about in rally.... Drive as fast as possible from A to B with as less damage as possible ... and the fastest wins the rally! with just 1 min stage its not even challenging specially whit 5 rewinds AND after each stage a service..... this isnt like a rally game because u will drive everything perfect...... sad but true... and yes u can ignore the service and yes u dont have to use the rewinds... but i am talking in name of the rally sport and u should reserved in its value.

Its such a shame... Codemasters got the perfect things... they got good developed cars, a Handling system for Sim and arcade drivers! , changing weather systems ( in F1) what they should use on the 8 min rally stages, they got the information from the Professional rally drivers, the graphic engine is fantastic! they got the good car sounds...

but where its all about " the rally rules / stage ..." that just the thing that what they missed... sadly its the important thing off all ... Sometime i am asking myself when does Codemasters awake from this dream and just accept that rally = long stages and not just look at the 13 years old kids that cant play longer then one and a half min stages with 3 rewinds in it...

I am not talking about a SIM stage, with the real environment and the very narrow stages.... but just about the lenght

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It's the typical thing. They'll have nice looking graphics, slick looking videos, you'll get the game and play it for a week and get bored before you finish the career mode.

Then there'll be a big announcement. DiRT 4 is coming! We've listened to what you want and we now have even more historic cars which handle more or less the same as each other despite being rather different back in the day! There's more stages for your rally racing fans and for the people who don't have the skill to drive a stage in a decent time, we've now invented supergymkhana which is a mode where you do donuts around a guy on a segway, get shot by a dude with a paintball marker and get to take an endless amount of takes at each individual section of your video. Once you have completed the driving part you can edit your video to have moody slo mo shots of your driving, once finished editing our patented cluelessteenwho'sneverevendrivenacarorseenaproperW RCevent engine will Mark you on how well your video would impress someone with an IQ of 12 on Youtube. cOlIn mCrAe DiRt 4.0 (putting a .0 after the number makes it cooler btw) will be available in the fall of 2012 and will be available on PS3, XBox 360, Wii and on PC with a crapload of DRM. There will also be a deluxe version with playable segway and paintball modes. The Wii Gold Deluxe version will include Segway and paintball marker controller attachments.

Seriously, **** off Codemasters and stop raping the Colin McRae name and just call it DiRT and stop claiming that it's anything to do with rallying at all. Call it Ken Block DiRT if you want to, just stop using Colin's name like this and stop making crappy games with little to do with rallying and pretending that they're rallying games.

P.S If you do launch a game as crap as the one that's mentioned and steal my mock press release I'll freaking sue you.

Umm, Daniel: http://www.play.com/Search.html?sear...rchstring=dirt

They have dropped the McRae name...thank god. Although I still think that they should have made a completely seperate title, so that it's really distanced.

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Originally Posted by barryfullalove

Umm, Daniel: http://www.play.com/Search.html?sear...rchstring=dirt

They have dropped the McRae name...thank god. Although I still think that they should have made a completely seperate title, so that it's really distanced.

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http://www.codemasters.co.uk/games/i...hp?gameid=2012 = "Colin McRae DiRT Official UK Homepage"

They've half dropped the McRae name, but not completely.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

http://www.codemasters.co.uk/games/i...hp?gameid=2012 = "Colin McRae DiRT Official UK Homepage"

They've half dropped the McRae name, but not completely.

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if they drop it or not, they have one thig left to do... and that is to make a REMAKE game called Colin McRae Rally 2.0 to honor Colin McRae , the same game but now whit latest grafics, better looking modeld cars and stages, and a very big honor to Colin McRae! and ofcourse whit all the Rally cars in the game where Colin Drove whit...

Something the same what they did whit Duke Nukem , just a very good remake to honor it. ;)

No sir. You are not correct at all.

What they do need to do is remake the original Colin McRae Rally - the original and still the best.

I remember playing CMR2 for the first time and being taken aback as they'd ruined a fantastic game.

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Originally Posted by Mark

No sir. You are not correct at all.

What they do need to do is remake the original Colin McRae Rally - the original and still the best.

I remember playing CMR2 for the first time and being taken aback as they'd ruined a fantastic game.

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it doesnt really what cmr rally game it will be as long as they just do it =D

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Originally Posted by Mark

No sir. You are not correct at all.

What they do need to do is remake the original Colin McRae Rally - the original and still the best.

I remember playing CMR2 for the first time and being taken aback as they'd ruined a fantastic game.

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Well that's just wrong. CMR2 is miles better, the stage design is streets ahead...and you get to drive a 6R4.

What, sort, ultra wide stages - nah. If you like arcade games I suppose.

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Originally Posted by Mark

What, sort, ultra wide stages - nah. If you like arcade games I suppose.

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eh? The Rally GB stages are fantastic and certainly not very wide.

Sega Rally 2 is better than both (joing of course! :p )

CMR 2.0 was awesome. Especially the British stages.

I'll get DIRT 3 no matter what other people think. I'm not 17 anymore with endless time to sit in front of a console and do some hardcore gaming for 5/6 hours. I mainly use my XBox to pass the time, pick it up for a quick game when I'm bored. That'll do for me.

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Originally Posted by Iain

CMR 2.0 was awesome. Especially the British stages.

I'll get DIRT 3 no matter what other people think. I'm not 17 anymore with endless time to sit in front of a console and do some hardcore gaming for 5/6 hours. I mainly use my XBox to pass the time, pick it up for a quick game when I'm bored. That'll do for me.

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Welcome back to the forum :up: :p :

Mini does Monaco :D

[youtube]SP53UFXPk9w[/youtube]

I would've prefered the Turini...hopefully it will be in a DLC ;)

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Originally Posted by lcd

(Based on Paul Coleman's of CM answers via twitter)

-We have a Hyundai powered car in the game but it is not a conventional Hyundai model.
-We have the Audi Sport Quattro and the big winged Pikes Peak special in DiRT3.
-We have the Castrol Toyota Celica GT4 ST205 in the game not the ST185.
-We've got 6 Subarus. Three Rally, one RallyCross and two Gymkhana variants.
-The 3-sided geometry correlates with the fact that this is DiRT3.
Style wise we 're going for somewhere between D1 & D2 menus.
-We change the weather between stages rather than during a stage.
The stages aren't long enough to justify dynamic weather.
-Some of the lights in the environment will cast dynamic shadows at night but the headlight
proved to be too expensive to do.
-Split Screen will be local only. We are looking at On-line Split Screen for future titles.
-If the car is dusty / muddy and it drives through water , the water will clean the car.

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Take it that'd be this one then:

[youtube]Bh_sV058aLU[/youtube]

The stages aren't long enough to justify dynamic weather :down: (hate this) :p :

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Originally Posted by Daniel

http://www.codemasters.co.uk/games/i...hp?gameid=2012 = "Colin McRae DiRT Official UK Homepage"

They've half dropped the McRae name, but not completely.

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What you've done there is link to Dirt 1 anyway.

At present I don't think I'd buy Dirt 3, and I currently have Dirt 2, Grid and F1 2010. I'm more interested in a Grid 2. Dirt 3 just doesn't look different enough and I agree it needs longer stages.

A couple short vids..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb3Vl...&feature=feedu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hxhs_wEmKUg&feature=feedu

Not long now :D

Rally Finland-rain:

[youtube]O1ykmD7zpxI[/youtube]

Eurogamer review. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...-dirt-3-review

Nice one...2 more days waiting :D

I'm pre-loading this on Steam (PC) as we speak. Can't wait til Tuesday :D

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Seriously, **** off Codemasters and stop raping the Colin McRae name and just call it DiRT and stop claiming that it's anything to do with rallying at all. Call it Ken Block DiRT if you want to, just stop using Colin's name like this and stop making crappy games with little to do with rallying and pretending that they're rallying games.

P.S If you do launch a game as crap as the one that's mentioned and steal my mock press release I'll freaking sue you.

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I know you have a bit of common sense going by your other forum posts, but it seems you clearly can't read. The McRae name has NOTHING to do with Dirt 3, this was announced in August 2010 was Dirt3 was announced. And why link to the 1st DiRT game page which was made when Colin was still alive :rolleyes:

This game has lots to do with rallying, but in no way have CM said or pretended that it is solely a rally game. Everyone knows that this game has other off road racing disciplines, as well as the introduction of Gymkhana which is actually quite good fun.