Mini set to announce wrc entry

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14th August 2010, 18:05
sal

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Originally Posted by Allyc85

Will the Mini WRC even be eligible for the BRC against the Group N cars?

Highly unlikley as the current management couldnt wait to get rid of the last generation of WRC cars from the British championship!
14th August 2010, 18:08
sal

Oh forgot to mention DR quoted the price of a Mini WRC to privateers will be £345,000 to include a two year warranty, a dedicated engineer at all events and the same BMW motorsport engine and Getrag gearbox as the works cars... No five year free servicing pack as per the road car then David?!!
14th August 2010, 18:20
Tomi

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Originally Posted by sal

As much as we may hate or try to deny it the world is looking for different things from it's sporting idols these days. Look at who the new drivers (Pastrami and Blockhead) from what is seen as the WRC's new holy grail the USA name check it's Colin for his driving style but also his persona and approach to life i.e. full on not Seb for his personal grooming.

The world maybe do, but this is still a sport and the achivements is that counts, whatever you do in marketing really dont make you a better driver, I have no problems with Loeb and have never had, I rate him very high, over Sainz, Kankku and Mäkinen but personalities are different, and whatever he does except driving is of no interest to me, im interested in rally as a sport only, and if teams start to choose drivers on other grounds but skill then it is the sport who loose.
14th August 2010, 18:38
sal

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Originally Posted by Tomi

im interested in rally as a sport only, and if teams start to choose drivers on other grounds but skill then it is the sport who loose.

Some of the teams have already been choosing their drivers on who can bring money or backing with them rather than talent or personality though in the last few years the same as in any form of motorsport!

I'm with you most of the way and would prefer that the driving does the talking however as an old fart probably my all time rally hero is the late Tony Pond, who could drive like hell but was the sort of guy who could have a prize presentation in fits of laughter with his wit and sense of humour. I couldnt see Mikko for example, nice guy that he is, being able to carry that off and it's not just because I dont speak Finnish that I'm saying that!
14th August 2010, 19:01
Barreis

I don't know why sould they choose PG Andersson. I still remember that Hungarian that humiliated him in few years old 307 (never heard for that driver before) in Bulgaria.. Only if he pays for a drive..
15th August 2010, 10:24
AMSS

Mini

Hello

Does anybody btw know what suspension they use for the Mini?
20th August 2010, 19:43
OldF

Quote:

Originally Posted by sal

Oh forgot to mention DR quoted the price of a Mini WRC to privateers will be £345,000 to include a two year warranty, a dedicated engineer at all events and the same BMW motorsport engine and Getrag gearbox as the works cars... No five year free servicing pack as per the road car then David?!!

Do you know if this Getrag gearbox has an active or a mechanical centre differential?
21st August 2010, 17:17
Mirek

First prototype of Mini WRC in testing in Czech republic :D

http://emk.cz/wp-content/myfotos/10_...evo5_30/04.jpg
21st August 2010, 19:20
noel157

Nice spy shot Mirek, wonder who the test driver is?
21st August 2010, 19:37
A.F.F.

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Originally Posted by noel157

Nice spy shot Mirek, wonder who the test driver is?

Timo Mäkinen ;)
22nd August 2010, 00:14
noel157

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Originally Posted by A.F.F.

Timo Mäkinen ;)

Not so sure, could be Paddy Hopkirk?
26th August 2010, 22:26
Allar

http://translate.google.ee/translate...%2F155559.html
26th August 2010, 22:35
Tomi

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Originally Posted by rallyfan+

http://translate.google.ee/translate...%2F155559.html

Good luck, would be good if they sign Sordo, for both parts.
26th August 2010, 22:52
N.O.T

hmmm very interesting choice... but do they have the money to bring him to the team??
26th August 2010, 23:19
Barreis

Couldn't be better for mini - Gronholm/Martin - peugeot pair..
26th August 2010, 23:53
N.O.T

LOL...yes perfect.
27th August 2010, 09:12
Viking

Not interested, says Petter.

http://translate.google.com/translat...2F&sl=no&tl=en
27th August 2010, 18:36
COD

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Originally Posted by Barreis

Couldn't be better for mini - Gronholm/Martin - peugeot pair..

Two drivers who have not competed actively in years, Good drivers for testing and developing the car at the beginning but to compete.... Not a good idea....
27th August 2010, 20:09
Xsara Fan

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Originally Posted by COD

Two drivers who have not competed actively in years, Good drivers for testing and developing the car at the beginning but to compete.... Not a good idea....

OMG. Could anyone tell me WHY Martin is a 'good driver for testing'?
27th August 2010, 20:25
Tomi

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Originally Posted by Xsara Fan

OMG. Could anyone tell me WHY Martin is a 'good driver for testing'?

he did that for years at ford, can you tell why he would not be?
27th August 2010, 20:30
Barreis

8 wins.. That's why..
27th August 2010, 22:51
N.O.T

bugalski is good for testing..kresta is good for testing also.

there is a difference between knowing what needs to be done to the CAR to go faster and know what to do with yourself to go faster.
29th August 2010, 18:48
pettersolberg29

TotalRally saying on Facebook that PG has signed for Mini, and his SWRC team is looking for a new driver for France.
30th August 2010, 10:39
Xsara Fan

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Originally Posted by Tomi

he did that for years at ford, can you tell why he would not be?

And what? He did that with Subaru Impreza S14 - he was the main test-driver. Was it good car? I don`t think so.
30th August 2010, 12:09
cali

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Originally Posted by Xsara Fan

And what? He did that with Subaru Impreza S14 - he was the main test-driver. Was it good car? I don`t think so.

Have you forgot Focus 03 which was completely built according to his wishes, while S14 was already built/designed with issues.
30th August 2010, 13:10
mm1

I wanted to post this, but wasn`t sure. I alos thought that he was brought in the testing program when the car allready was underperforming like the last chance to make the car competitive. And then Subaru pulled out...
30th August 2010, 15:53
N.O.T

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Originally Posted by Xsara Fan

And what? He did that with Subaru Impreza S14 - he was the main test-driver. Was it good car? I don`t think so.

i think you need a few things more than a good test driver to produce a good car.
30th August 2010, 19:27
Tomi

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Originally Posted by Xsara Fan

And what? He did that with Subaru Impreza S14 - he was the main test-driver. Was it good car? I don`t think so.

Lol, thats a different thing, same like that a Lada will never become a good car who ever would drive it.
But do you think they should have choosed Markko if they would have tought that he did a bad job with the Subaru or with the Ford?
30th August 2010, 20:13
Xsara Fan

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Originally Posted by Tomi

Lol, thats a different thing, same like that a Lada will never become a good car who ever would drive it.
But do you think they should have choosed Markko if they would have tought that he did a bad job with the Subaru or with the Ford?

I know that Mini will not choose MM. That`s all.
30th August 2010, 20:23
Tomi

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Originally Posted by Xsara Fan

I know that Mini will not choose MM. That`s all.

choose for what, testdriver?
30th August 2010, 21:26
Xsara Fan

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Originally Posted by Tomi

choose for what, testdriver?

For the main driver. As a test-driver? Ok, let them try. At least at the first season it`s not a huge problem. But if I was at Richards place, I`ll try to buy Citroen`s test-driver. For example Juuso Pykalisto. AFAIK he is without any contract now and Citroen`s specialists said to me that 'He is a very good test-driver'. Take a look at Citroen C4 WRC - this car was 'made' by Bugalski & Pykalisto.
30th August 2010, 21:53
Tomi

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Originally Posted by Xsara Fan

For the main driver. As a test-driver? Ok, let them try. At least at the first season it`s not a huge problem. But if I was at Richards place, I`ll try to buy Citroen`s test-driver. For example Juuso Pykalisto. AFAIK he is without any contract now and Citroen`s specialists said to me that 'He is a very good test-driver'. Take a look at Citroen C4 WRC - this car was 'made' by Bugalski & Pykalisto.

It does not make any different, because what Pykäkistö knows about cars he has learned from Grönholm, and if the car has any potential, he will be the other testdriver.
I dont think that anyone seriously belive that Märtin would be anyone of the maindrivers, but if they are that serious as they claim, there is not so many drivers to choose from maybe 3-4 younger (around 30) who has WRC experience and potential.
31st August 2010, 00:01
Micke_VOC

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Originally Posted by pettersolberg29

TotalRally saying on Facebook that PG has signed for Mini, and his SWRC team is looking for a new driver for France.

But isn't the contract for 2011 ? Why not drive swrc this year?

Maybe its Ford ? In a interview in a Swedish newspaper PG told that if he can drive a Stobart Ford on some events later this year he will drop Swrc..
31st August 2010, 01:39
noel157

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Originally Posted by Micke_VOC

But isn't the contract for 2011 ? Why not drive swrc this year?

Maybe its Ford ? In a interview in a Swedish newspaper PG told that if he can drive a Stobart Ford on some events later this year he will drop Swrc..

Exactly, Ford could well be the reason or perhaps another team.......

If I were DR I would pick Gronholm, assuming he wants the seat, which I assume he does.
31st August 2010, 10:34
jbmarcus21

yes but Marcus doesn't want full season
31st August 2010, 10:55
mm1

And Mini isn`t doing a full season.
31st August 2010, 11:10
jbmarcus21

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Originally Posted by mm1

And Mini isn`t doing a full season.

yes !! ;) ..
31st August 2010, 15:55
OldF

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xsara Fan

For example Juuso Pykalisto. AFAIK he is without any contract now and Citroen`s specialists said to me that 'He is a very good test-driver'. Take a look at Citroen C4 WRC - this car was 'made' by Bugalski & Pykalisto.

I think Juuso Pykälistö would be a good test driver. For example when was doing a test drive with the Fiesta R2, on the first run he said it was very difficult to control in slow corners. The reason for that revealed to be that the rear wheels had about 2 cm bigger diameters compared to the front wheels. They’ve (the owner of the car) had replaced the rear wheels because of a damaged rim. When they replaced the front wheels to same as the rear wheels, Juuso said that it was totally different car. He’s also giving good analysis what he would change on the cars he’s been testing.
2nd September 2010, 10:32
noel157

Team is starting to shape up:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/86310

Meeke and Marcus and maybe PG at a later stage would be a good combination.
2nd September 2010, 10:38
mm1

That`s a good one!

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