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Onboard video of this alf tarmac stage.
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http://areena.yle.fi/video/1134513
Onboard video of this alf tarmac stage.
Great!
They really managed to make Lajavuori even more interesting! :)
the road is way too narrow though, i doubt drivers will risk anything there with gravel tyres.
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Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
OH NOSE!
NO Rally Stupor-star Ken "Rally God" Block!!!!!!!
Why no BLOCKIE?
Have you dam Finns done something to his entry?
'Fraid of a litter competition?
I want to see American dominate you guys again just like early 90s when Tim O'Neil kicked your tails... (I'd really like to see stage times for WRC when American O'neil was entered in VW Synchro.... PLEASE!!!)
Program and Google Earth Map of NORF 2010 http://planetemarcus.free.fr/finlande10.htm
He HAS to do X Games in LA same weekend, THAT brings in the $$'s he needs to go to WRC !!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
He would love to do WRC Finland but this one is not possible.....
Maybe it's too quick but that's how it is with Finland.. Only the best are doing good there..
Right, how could I forget!!!???Quote:
Originally Posted by ProRally
The best drivers in the WHOLE WORLD all gathered in one parking lot racing at speeds up to 60 or even 70 km/hr!!!
HOURS of reality TV for 3-4 minutes of edge of the seat thrills---how could I forget?
Why isn't Loeb and Lat-hund-valla and Raikonen and Hirovonen and gronholm at the Hex-games???
Couldn't they move the date for Ralli-Suomi, that should be easy enough...
I know , I know, but that pays the bills.... :D :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
Not so much different anymore from playing on a huge parking or driving 2 stages in the morning and the same 2 in the afternoon as in Bulgaria....
:D :D
All the best for Petter and Chris in Finland. Eventhough it's only their 2nd rally together.
Did they move the dates for Ralli Finland yet so it doesn't clash with the EX-games?
They still have time and then they could get all the American rally Gods over for some real action!
Hope springs eternal!
haha good one :D :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
I was at the first X Games 12 in 2006 when 'rally racing' was part of the event the first time.
Rally Finland this year is 60th edition....
60 years ago the only one dreaming of rally in the USA was John Buffum :D :D
There is more action in 1 Rally Finland then there is 50 X Games
just joking around like you....
I've always found this American concept of racing rallies against each other to be interestingQuote:
Originally Posted by ProRally
As you would.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Anybody able to mark out shakedown on a map in paint or something?
Just outside west of Valkola.Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
I know the area it is, but the exact start and stop of the stage would be nice to have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
I have a pic but don´t know how to upload it... you know old people and computers :oQuote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
lol, many newely born thinks they are experts what comes to computers, after they use computers 25 years in work everyday, they might understand its only a tool, nothing more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
On your pc? upload it here http://raceinfo.no/Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
And post the link you get.
Done!!! I feel proud of myself (hope it did succeed). :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
Shakedown starts at 62 10.606N 25 40.719E and ends at 62 09.690N 25 38.186E, says the spectators' guide.
17 S2000 cars. Really looking forward to see:
- How Hänninen does against S-WRC drivers to see the speed of IRC
- Garde and Alen against S-WRC drivers and Hänninen
- Juha Salo (gN Evo X) against S2000 drivers
- Flodin (Impreza WRX Sti) vs Salo in a battle of group N
- What's the pace of Jarkko Nikara on his 207 S2000
And of course much more
Hehe, if you had remembered to post the link on here ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Ok thanks, just copy and past to google maps to view that if you don't have a gps at hand. Are the maps in the magazine good size?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
I don't know if it has been mentioned here, but i was reading through the documents of the rally and it said that the ten fastest on ss1 will be able to chose their starting order on friday morning :)
http://www.raceinfo.no/temp/tn_SD_Fin_10_1.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
:o :o
That had been changed since and it won't happen. Leg 1 on Friday will start in seeded order. On SSS1 Laajavuori 1 priority drivers will drive in reversed order (meaning, I think, Gardemeister, Alen and Lindroos for example driving the stage just after Ogier and Loeb). Also, due to the stage being broadcasted live (MTV3 MAX, pay tv) organizers get to decide which drivers are being sent to the stage with a 2-minute interval, which with a 1-minute interval.Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
Spectators' guide (€10, from newstands comes with previous issue of VM magazine and some DVD, but that's in Finnish, so...it looks like this) has one big map with the overview of the area. It is size of a eight A8 sheets. There's no scale mentioned outright and "I'm no geologist" (in a Bosse voice). One cm is about 3k's in the map. The map have worked well in the past, but if your driving alone, it could get difficult to handle and for sure it will be in about eight pieces by the Friday evening ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
In the spectators' guide magazine itself there are two pages on each stage with about 10x15cm map of the stage with spectators points, parking areas, no-go zones, etc. marked to the map. Also the start and the end of the stages are mentioned in GPS codes like above.
There are also stage descriptions and spectators' point descriptions in English, also information on how to get there in English.
One positive side, slightly small detail but a useful, on this years' guide is that on most of the parking areas it is stated whether it's roadside or field parking (= fields usually means less walking if you're late). However they've not translated that info into English, so write up: "Peltoparkki" means parking in a field, "Tienvarsipysäköinti" means parking roadside. Remember to keep some change for parking, they usually cost around €3-5 to park.
Other info on the spectators' guide is mostly in Finnish but there are briefs in English on every usuful - and perhaps not so useful - information.
Oh - and bring on a small FM radio to hear the rally radio broadcast. That is the soundtrack of the 1000 Lakes. Though there will be thousands of radios in the forest already, so you can't away from it anyway...
Only news the guide brought on the event is that there should some kind of historic rally cars parade to honour the 60th jubileum nature of the event. There are no list of cars or drivers, but I guess it'll be mostly 60s and 70s cars. Those cars will drive through the stages noncompetively some 120-90 minutes before 1st WRC car. They appear on SS1 on Thursday, SS7, SS8 and SS11 on Friday and SS15 and SS16 on Saturday. I would've hoped they'd run the stages between a stage that'll run twice but seems to be not the case. Perhaps the roads are thought to get too rutted.
I hope this helped.
Im heading to Finland next week for the Rally, really looking forward to it. Any suggestions on what to pack? We have been told to pack some insect repellent due to the insects around the water..
This picture will help...Quote:
Originally Posted by 6789
There have been a lot of mosquitos this summer due to a lot of snow last winter, so yes, they can get to your nerves. In an open place in the sun the mosquites disappaer, but then you get the horse flies that are far more aggressive. But you can buy repellents from any grocery store or pharmacy (if you need a sensitive one, and cortison to cure the rash) in Finland, though of course you can bring in your own. OFF is the most popular brand. Those smoking spirals work well too, but don't start a forest fire!
What to pack is a big one. Two things you should prepare yourself for are the early mornings and if it rains. First stages of the morning run early and it can get well below 10 degrees then. The rally is organised at propably the best time of Finnish summer and last years the weather has been nice (meaning no rain, some 20-30 degrees in the sun), but in case of rain you better have rain clothes.
If you have more questions, you can PM me.
Strange that they changed that since it seemed that was what all the drivers wanted to try.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
I've used a GPS for 3 years now and i can't figure out how we managed without it before! So easy and stressless to get around now :) And the maps seems easy to set it with too. Thanks for all the info!
Are there a lot of toll roads in Finland?
Yeah, just to remind everybody coming to Finland: This summer has been extremely hot and the forests are very dry. Please be extremely careful with anything that has something to do with fire. Forest fire during the rally could easily generate major "sh*t hits the fan" -situations for the organizers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
Yesterday I recced Kolonkulma and Väärinmaja (SS12 and SS13). Kolonkulma is very idyllic stage, even though it's short, for me, it represents the true nature of Rally Finland. :) Beautifull scenery, winding road through farm houses, forests and fields not to forget that one pond. Shame that they drive it in the same direction than last year, as it has been driven in both directions in national rallies.
Väärinmaja has dozens of different road types in it. If (read: when) we have some fights in our hands on Saturday morning, they are resolved in here. The very narrow small road has been refurbished and it's now mainly very slippery ball-bearing type of gravel. Some forest works have changed the look of some parts of the stage but nothing major.
Not a lot... To be exact, zero kilometres. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
Thanks alot, really helpful!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
In the picture is the axe to cut down some of the forest to gain better spectator access? Migth have problems getting through customs but lol. Can't wait for the Rally to start
The axe is definitely not for mosquitos, that I can tell.Quote:
Originally Posted by 6789
Not big enough, eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
I hear you use Bofors 2 x 40mm for them.
That brings up a question: Has there ever been any recorded loss of spectators to mosquitoes? How do the organisers manage to arrange that no spectators should be carried away into the deepest träsken ?
I have to questions that are rather importent for me :D
Can we buy (stong)beer and this "disposable" one time grills in stores in Finland?
:D
Sure, but be carefull with the grillQuote:
Originally Posted by Koppomsbo
Promise, guess we will that kind of food will be an "last way out"Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
We probably go for som Rallimakkara :D
How about Amarillo on Wednesday evening at 18.00? Good food and in the middle of everything in the city of Jyväskylä. Everyone?Quote:
Originally Posted by Koppomsbo
Have a couple of beers and feel the rally coming.... :D