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M Sport will not be selling any cars until 2012 at the earliest and all cars next year (10 or so) will be for satellite teams like Stobart. A new rush of paranoia is gripping the wrc as Citroen are playing the same game..
so are they going to run in that m-sport based livery next season or do they still have sponsorship from Abu Dahbi? like on the current focuses
I think that reason for that is simple. All cars they'll be able to produce or almost all of them already have customers for next year's WRC campaign. With some price limits for new cars and parts from FIA it's much more profitable way for M-Sport to run those cars themselves - prices for renting are not limited anyhow, so they can make much more money this way.Quote:
Originally Posted by sal
Anyway IRC, ERC and most of national championships stays with normal S2000 next year.
So, no Fiesta SP (S1.6T) version for 2011?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
What about SP in IRC, will they be allowed?
No, not for 2011 at least, IRC stays with tradituonal S2000 / N4Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
1.6T won't be allowed in any FIA championship except WRC in 2011.
Do you know if they will be allowed in a British championship like the BTRDA?
I dont know but I think that with a 10 car build for WRC I dont think M-Sport will have the capacity to build a car for BTRDA in the early days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allyc85
That’s probably one reason why SWRC 2011 is with S2000 (NA). The teams haven’t resources to build enough cars. Taking into account the cars are new from 2011, they’ve some development to do yet.
Then if you order a SP Mini you'll have to wait till 2012 to rally it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
http://www.motoringfile.com/wp-conte...es-package.pdf
And what about the Fabia, if Skoda remains at the IRC they won´t be abble to homologate the 1.6T car next season?
Even knowing there's little time to produce new cars, it´s strange that new 2011 regs about S2000 1.6T cars won´t be aplicated, meaning that we'll see no new cars at IRC (and SWRC) during 2011 (no 1.6T and homologation of NA S2000 only permited till the end of 2010).
i had chance to be on pr event where Ott Tänak's Fiesta S2000 was unveiled for local sponsors. Some rumors which circulated there: M.Märtin had some time ago tested Fiesta S2000 and pointed out that rear shocks were not good enough, causing car to be unstable on high speed bends. When Ott went off and got stuck in similar situation in Finland recently, Märtin took phone call to M-Sport to speed them up in delivering new shocks. Unfortunately those did not arrive by last week, so Märtin tested car on wednesday and decided to set limiter on top speed for weekends Saaremaa Rally. Thus on faster stages (as said in radio interview) Ott was "picking his nose" as car had too low top speed of 169 kmh...
This info might seem bit irrelevant in wrc context, but as we know lot of experiences learned on S2000 wil be taken over for wrc, so i thought it might be interesting for at least some of you :D
I think that it actually is good move by FIA. If they allow these cars elsewhere right from start how many of them would start outside WRC till the end of 2011? I'm sure very few and rarely more than one or two per event. Also the price now when there are no second hand cars will be very high for users outside WRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
With tarmac short gearbox and tarmac tyres Fiesta has top speed 171 km/h, so it was probably same gearing.Quote:
Originally Posted by rubla
I dont know about gearing but as this was gravel rally, then tarmac tires is not the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
I know it was gravel but that's very small difference for speed. Tarmac and gravel tyres have same diameter, the difference is only in different pressure and more wheel-spin on gravel (thus slightly different dynamic diameter) ;)
whatever. i found article where Tänak himself also uses wording "speed limiter" - http://www.saartehaal.ee/index.php?c...15&artid=21732Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
but what was point of my post, is that they have some issues with rear suspension.
ok, no problem
photoshop
I think you are correct - BF Goodrich? I thought the Michelin brand was the one to be used, also what confirmation that BP/Castrol will be the oil supplier? The Prodrive Mini had Castrol branding on at the Paris show launch.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
photoshop...a bad one.
it doesn't look that fast....
Yep a grainy movie on youtube, the perfect way to judge a cars pace :p
What I know is that judging the recent videos from Portugal DS3 tests is that the car is way fast, I might be talking nonsense but the car looked to me as fast or faster than the C4 already, so Ford may want to look at that and think.
That takes some skill to do all that but please please dont let it be that horrid livery again!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobcat
Like you put it yourself, that's nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
DS3 was driven on dry gravel vs. Fiesta on wet gravel - not a way to judge the speed of both cars (even on video)....
BTW Fiesta is climbing a hill in that video.
That photoshopped livery is a mess....way to busy with too may logos fighting for space
It has been like that since 2007 I think, problably most horrible livery in WRC history and this "new" one isn't any better (ok, maybe the back of the car is slightly better)....any objections?Quote:
Originally Posted by I am evil Homer
if ford have build 10 fietas wrc cars 2 for the main team,2stortbart,1monster,1 villagra who are the other lucky 4 drivers or they are spare cars just in case of serious crash? :s mokin:
3 BPFAD (+ Al Qassimi)Quote:
Originally Posted by Red bull
1 Stobart (Matthew)
1 Henning
2 Monster
1 Munchis
and whos the other monster driver apart 4rm block :rolleyes: ?
Block needs two for himself....one for promo burnouts, one for rally ;)
Each driver needs atleast two cars. so 10 cars is probably just about enough for the ones listed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Red bull
HELL WHAT A WASTE :mad: :mad: :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by I am evil Homer
Don`t take evrything so seriously :)