To fight for a win in WRC and IRC is not the same..
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To fight for a win in WRC and IRC is not the same..
Fiat is considering returning for another season in the IRC with 3 drivers, starting in Monte Carlos, with Basso, Rossetti and Scandola. Alen has a contract for 2010, but apparently the management of Fiat does not have plans for him. The decision for the 2010 season will be taken in the days to come. Director Nicola Gullino be replaced by Gabrielle Palmitesta.
Nicolas Vouilloz is in contact with Skoada France for a limited program, starting also in Monte Carlo. He will test the Fabia S2000 this weekend.
Good news about Skoda and Nico. I like how the IRC brings out these national efforts that hark back to the good old days of rallying. Peugeot UK, Skoda France etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
As for Abarth. Part of me thinks why bother.
I'd prefer them to take a year out and get a new car sorted for 2011 in the WRC. Otherwise they will just be making up the numbers in an outdated car and pull out a year later - basically delaying the inevitable.
Man you are making the worst one liners ive ever seen. Seriously, dont fool yourself. In 2009, the competition in IRC was often harder and more qualitative than in WRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
More drivers fighting for the win = more fight.
1+1=2.
Wrc was crap this year. IRC was not. Deal with it.
So far I have heard Nicolas Vouilloz linked with:
- Works Abarth seat
- Proton
- Buying own 207
- Skoda
Hopefully one of them comes true :)
Put any of this IRC drivers to beat Seb.Loeb in WRC..Quote:
Originally Posted by J.Lindstroem
Well, start looking in WRC. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
Loeb is an incredible driver and he is far from the average WRC driver.
Look at the rest of the field.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
There are IRC-drivers that can beat Mikko, Sordo, Latvala, P.Solberg, H.Solberg, Wilson, Rautenbach, Ogier. Any day.
You can't say that i am totaly wrong.
:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
The car may not have the winning potential. But the drivers have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
I enjoy watching the massive efforts of Basso and Rosetti while they're trying to catch others with an uncompetitive car.
I don't want to start an IRC v. WRC (although I prefer the IRC as a rally fan) but in my opinion there are no drivers in the IRC who could beat Mikko, Loeb, Sordo, Solberg, Latvala or maybe Ogier and Henning.Quote:
Originally Posted by J.Lindstroem
There is a definate front 5 in the WRC (poss. 6 with Kimi) and these 5 are way above any other drivers in any other rally tournament in my view.
I agree..
Guys, please, stop this useless neverending WRC/IRC story at least in serious threads.
I did say that I didn't want to start an argument but just stated by belief. But here's a line drawn under it:Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Mirek Fric [Cze
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Yeah the one good thing is that it keeps good drivers in jobs with a works team too. But like I said in my previous post I only see it being a one year extension of the inevitable pull-out unless they take the plunge and sign off on a new car. I find it frustrating in that sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloverleaf
There isnt written, that Abarth will start with Punto...
As you say Simmi, it is a couple more cars per event even if they're not brilliant. Drivers like Basso deserve better though really.
The Procar team was impressed by Irishman Keith Cronin in Scotland, and they hope to continue with him in 2010 in the Grande Punto
I think the Abarth still have a good pace... actually it won some rallies last year.
I donīt know if the car will have any evolution for the next season but for me the main problem of the car is behid its steering wheel... for sure Basso is a very fast driver but they need a driver with international experience (Garde was the good one...).
Rent of Evo 10 is half a prise of fabia s2000 for MC rally.. Cca..30000/60000 euros..
It's opposite way unfortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alvaro_Rally
Basso was the only one to keep pace in Abarth in international competition (for the price of enormous risk). Even Rossetti's shinning star burnt out in Abarth. All others who drove works Abarth were nowhere near the top (Duval, Alen, Casier, Fuster, Scandola, Cronin or Sousa in PWRC). In fact there was no works Abarth as all official cars were run by Grifone and Procar.
Out of interest, will the Fiesta make more appearances this season? I know Ford aren't officially taking part in the IRC, but will privateers use it in the IRC or will they be forced to enter the S2000 WC in the WRC?
I absolutely agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Mirek Fric [Cze
Actually the problem is that Basso is "alone" in Abarth, thatīs why I think they need an experienced driver to be Bassoīs team mate.
Only Basso (and disappointing Alen) has had a complete season with the Abarth. Why not a complete season for another "top driver" with experience in other S2000 cars? Iīm sure it would be good for the car and the team.
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Originally Posted by alleskids
If only Racing Lions came with two 207s too for Ucci and Travaglia... :rolleyes:
It probably means nothing, but Eyvind Brynildsen and Stephane Sarrazin have both joined the Ramsport Team group on Facebook in the last day. Maybe a pair of Fiesta's for them in the IRC this year?
Stephane Sarrazin? Mmm, that's interesting. Surely as a Peugeot Le Mans/Sprtscar driver, they wouldn't let him drive a Ford, unless they were releasing him from his contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by pettersolberg29
I joined the group aswell ;)
and what car did they gave you? :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by urabus-denoS2000
Yeah, I thought Sarrazin was having a Pug 207 again this year, so thought it odd to see him join the Ramsport page.
What is more baffling is that urabus-denoS20000 is also rumoured to be getting a Fiesta. He joined the page as well so maybe a 3 car team with Sarrazin and Brynildsen?
He (Urabus Deno) has Subaru..
Luckily for him that Subaru joined the IRC, so he kan keep any point that he scores
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Originally Posted by pettersolberg29
Sarrazin in a Ford ??? IMPOSSIBLE !! :rolleyes:
Yes it is true,I did join the group and they offered me a Fiesta S2000 but with the program starting in Brazil.My goal is to drive Monte so I will work on a private Subaru 1/10 Tamiya RC project on Monte ;)
A lot of people did :DQuote:
Originally Posted by pettersolberg29
Due to the lack of money, Urmo Aava is also considering a few races in IRC with S2000 car. There is currently no money for WRC starts.
He is currently one of the key persons behind Estonian IRC rally 2012 project as well.
Will it have IRC Supporter status next year or 2011?Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
That is a stunning looking car in my opinion. Look forward to seeing it in Sweden!
The link is dead, did anyone keep a copy they can post ?