I imagine him on a high speed corner to carry more speed.Then rolls and on the trees....Finland is the best place for Jari's mistakes!!!! :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Langdale Forest
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I imagine him on a high speed corner to carry more speed.Then rolls and on the trees....Finland is the best place for Jari's mistakes!!!! :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Langdale Forest
For me it seems that between Malcolm and Petter, there is very thick ice that cannot be destroyed. There is even bigger possibility that Martin takes second place in Ford than Solberg.Quote:
Originally Posted by efe-e
Damn I put 1 EUR for Jari-Matti that he wins 2009 championship. The odds were 1:75 :-) Not very good investment :-P
What an idiot. That is not anything any professional WRC-driver should do. I can see why they let him drive Finland, but if hey keep him after that then it must because of what Jouhki pays Ford
I think that he will reverse into Mikko's car in the service park, or loose controll in a time controll. :uhoh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho!
My sentiments exactly. Kick JML out now, Henning Slowberg has done better job so far this season than this --mywordsfailme--.Quote:
Originally Posted by COD
IMO JML can cope with pressure but he has problem with his concentration. Maybe it will take a year or two before he’s mature enough. I must say that for me JML’s crash took away a part of Mikko’s win.
Are the drivers on top level nowadays too young? As has been seen with Novikov and Ogier (except the last rallies) has crashed a lot also.
A part???He destroyed everything!!! :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by OldF
lol... Slowberg had 2 stagewins today.. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
No, not everything. For the team and him selves yes but not for me. A win is still a win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho!
Yeah - hire him instead of this accident-prone elephant in a porcelain shop.Quote:
Originally Posted by JFL
Never ever let Latvala near another rally car ever. You simply don't lose 2nd in a spectator stage.
VOI VITTU !!!!!!!
Let's talk about Jari-Matti a little bit. Yes, he is a pure talent. Yes, he is fast as hell when he has a good day. Yes, his way of driving appeal to fans. Yes, he is young and still got mileage in front of him. Yes, he is a Finn.
But yes, he can make it very very very VERY hard to stand behind him and back him up and support him when he continues to **** things up like that. :mark: Jari-Matti just has to change his attitude towards this sport and his profession way more humble because this just isn't going to work. He isn't that big of a talent that he is priceless. I AM SO DISAPPOINTED and ashamed. Unbelievable. Just ****ing unbelivable.
Now Malcom has invested so much on Latvala they just can't sack him but he has got to do something. Put him on the bench or make him wash Stobard's tyres in next rally or something... Today he failed his team-mate, his team-boss, his team and his fans. Unfortunately it is a habit novadays.
Please, go back to school Jari-Matti and come back when you have learnt something.
Today was a stupid thing. In normal work the guy would have been sacked, BUT there are two things that intrigue me about JML's relationship with MSport, a) the more I think about it he (or Juohki) is obviously paying for that drive, and b) Malcolm must be scared to sack him, just in case he ends up in C4 and is SO much faster than anyone. Malcolm would look a bigger fool them. I have said it before the WRC exists to top up the Wilson's piggy bank, I dont think Malcolm cares about winning...............
Please set Toni Gardemeister for the other rallies this season in the second factory BP Ford.
The thing is that Latvala has been in Wilson academy for years. Malcom see the talent in him but can't get it out. I think he refuse to let anybody else harvest the ripe grain.
It just can be too long and rocky road for Malcom....
Malcolm can see THE MONEY.. XD Don't be too enthusiastic.. :) It's normal that mistakes happen..
That is exactly what I have thought. In the past drivers were more mature before entering to top level of rallying.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldF
Today it seem that you're too old as over 25 :eek:
I saw this video a couple of times, and from de in-car camera i can't see a big mistake from JMLatvala. I see more faster a failure form the car than from Latvala.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbGR2dsyakQ
Well, Latvala himself says that touched inside the corner on the barrel...
You what... Malcolm invested in JML?? Yes, time, but while taking €10m off his managment over the years.Quote:
Originally Posted by A.F.F.
I mentioned it before, maybe its MW managment style, and the fact the JML its still paying to drive a Ford. Why not pay the fella a wage, and give him some self-worth. Put your money where you mouth is, and just hire him like anyother profession, instead of bleeding Finland dry.
If MW is TOTALLY SERIOUS about winning he would put JML in the Stobart team for the reast of the year, and pay Petter £100K a rally to drive in his place. Simple.
As I said in the Poland thread, is JML a paid or paying driver? Some of the Finnish forum members must know for sure, if he is a 'paying' driver, where does his benefactor get his money from?
my god....i just saw the video....wilson waiting with the champagne in his hand is just priceless :D :D :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by JAM
If we look at the sport over the decades then it was always much later that guys got into VM.Quote:
Originally Posted by A.F.F.
It was same in moto-cross. When I was young I had a chance to talk with the VM elit--Hallman, Åberg, Kring, Jonsson, Hansen, Mikkola Heikki, DeCoster and Bickers---and asked them about the age thing because in the US everybody would say if you're not a full time professional by 19 then you're already a "has been". All of them said don't worry, it takes 10 years to gather the experience and the mental toughness, so get serious first after you're 25-26. Then you have a max of about 10 years.
I was very puzzled by the rather recent trend of very very young drivers almost directly into the top of VM.
It's marketing. The target market is 14-24 You-tube generation. Got to have boys that aren't too old looking.
It was once an man's sport.
Oi oi oi.....
http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk...20a%20lifeline
If he makes a mistake this time he probably will not get another chance.
Having viewed the video of the crash, immediate post crash response and interview from Malcolm stating that 'at this momemt in time Jari Matti will drive a BP Ford in Finland' I just think the reason for this is that the entries have closed and only one of teh 3 elements, car, driver and co-driver can be changed. Also the rally after Finland is Australia, and Atkinson is waiting.......
Chris' manager is Paul Turner, same manager as Markko Martin. By my guessing I think we could see Atko in JML's seat in Australia, maybe a tarmac driver in Spain, and who knows in GB?
Unless JML performs exceptionally well on NORF, and that means 2nd to Mikko without a scratch on the car, I think its over for him. And that will be a great shame, as I beleive in him still. I also think he was in the wrong team, Prodrive would have been better than MSport in their development of a driver.
LOL!Quote:
Originally Posted by Langdale Forest
Anyway, in current quite weak competition consistency is probably more important than anything and hence endless mistakes are unacceptable. Heck, even 'consistent' Wilson is losing to JML only by 6 points! That said, due to his youth JML can't be completely written off, so it may be wise to send him to Stobart for maturing.
That's something I've wondering too, so many seems to know JML's seat is bought with big sum of euros but I can't figure out from where they could get that kind of money in Finland?Quote:
Originally Posted by Camelopard
Have you checked how much Jouhki alone makes/year + what his investments are worth. Sieltä niitä senttejä tulee...Quote:
Originally Posted by DonJippo
Yep, times up. Needs to go back to Stobart while a driver more capable of finishing rallies is put into the Ford seat.
No no, priceless is his face :DQuote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Who though? There aren't that many drivers out there at the minute that are quick and manage to get the car to the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by theugsquirrel
Gardemeister or Andersson would be a perfect choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Jan Yeo
Some years ago I wouldn`t said this but in 2009 the answer is... Matt Wilson! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Jan Yeo
Yes I have, have you? People should not believe all the rumors from Esson baari....Quote:
Originally Posted by COD
or Meeke.. oh sorry, silly me, he is not ScandinavianQuote:
Originally Posted by jens
Meeke is a little bit accident prone as well, but he is very fast IMHO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzz Lightyear
I somehow like the idea of Andersson driving for Ford :)
Meeke will not have a drive for Ford as long as Wilson is making the choices.... according to what I have heard :(
Malcolm has always had those he doesnt want to see in Ford cars, going back to the Gwyndaf days, when he chose Stephen Finlay as his team mate in te hMichelin Pilot Escort Cosworth. Also Kris is an ex-employee of MSport as as CAD engineer.Quote:
Originally Posted by J4MIE
Being too young is not the problem if they have the talent.
What they miss is the experience of fighting for a championship.
Many drivers arrive to the WRC without having won or even fight for any lower championship. That is what could give them the balance between speed and consistency.
Perhaps JM should do a season fighting for the title in IRC and if suceeds come back to WRC.