not true really, loeb is fast and luck has nothing to do with it, it just seems strange that there is no news about the test anywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
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not true really, loeb is fast and luck has nothing to do with it, it just seems strange that there is no news about the test anywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
Mikkelsen is no where near as fast as Latvalla and if Ford let hem go for Mikkelsen it would be one of the stupidest things Ford has done in its rally history. I see a lot of Atkinson's early driving years in Latvalla and he is sure to mature into a better driver with a little time, just as Atkinson has. Ford has two of the best drivers in the WRC today and if they don't hold on to the ones they have now it would be just as stupid as (metaphorically speaking) Citroen letting Loeb go.
Heippa :wave: , i was just being sarcastic ;) , but i'm also keen to read more about Mikkelsen's Citroen tests. You have to agree with me that Mikkelsen is actually very fast, not as fast as the Championship TOP3, but setting very good times. I'd like the idea of having Aava and Mikkelsen together in Citroen 2nd team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
Anybody has links about Mikkelsen's test?
Have You forgot which team is leading the manu race and who is leading drivers champs? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Saabaru
Offcourse he has potential, but from what he is now, its still a long way to a works car, and much can happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
I belive next year there will be many drivers in WRC who has not been driven before, because of the coming rule change after that its maybe easier to predict.
The France branch is overrulling the Finnisch ones. So to stop confusion:Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
FRM is French Rally Maffia
fRM is Finnisch rally maffia
:)
But indeed, we like to know who the other 3 drivers were at the C4 WRC test.
PS I do not have a horse, soputting a horse head in my bed will be difficult. But I would not mind if I found 4 cat heads and 1 doghead in my bed, if it means I do not longer get waken up in the middle off the night by the cats and dog of the neighbours :)
For what i know, Aava is also talking with different teams to have a better (read: financial) deal for the next year, so nothing sure for the next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
Aava for the Adapta Subaru World Rally Team ?Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
He's wish is to drive Ford or Citroen but Subaru and Suzuki are also options for the next season. His backers gave him a green light for 2009. Link in estonian: http://sloleht.ee/index.aspx?id=295693Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
I personally would like to delete Suzuki out from that list :D
http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk...%20for%202009?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
Mikkelsen also said that he could not belive how the Ford could keep up with the Citroen on tarmac
He is only a young lad trying to drive cars quickly.Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
I have nothing against him
He has potential, but that doesnt mean I have to rate tim as a driver today.
sorry, but could not find the part where it says that he was faster than loeb, or that loeb was even present at the test.Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
You can allways live in hope that there some day is a rally driver in Holland too, after that you can make your own Maffia.Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
sorry...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
http://www.motorsport.no/wip4/-_trod....epl?id=271447
Loeb was not on the test but has driven that road before.
am I missing something?Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
No, have you? I said "two of the best" not "the two best". :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
Lasse will be age of 20 in 15 years :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
If they were not driving on the same day then there is no point to compare times. Conditions changes too much for it this should be clear for everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
Lasse rules, already the name sounds fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacko
True, its good to be a bit a bit sceptic when its about Norwegian motor sport journalism, the Mitsu test a few years back where Henning was also teached quite much, maybe the truth is that Loeb did drive with a S1600 in the rain.Quote:
Originally Posted by DonJippo
I agree, potensially different conditions makes it impossible to compare. According to the norwegian rally-page, there were also only quoted "french sources", so whether Mikkelsen actually was faster or not, we don't know for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by DonJippo
However, IMO there is no doubt that Mikkelsen is very, very talented, and have every chance to be a title contender in a few years. I also think he has shown great maturity for his age, some offs is "needed" to find the limits for the car and driving.
It would be a dream to see him in a Citroen next year!
Thats the problem with internet, some people take nonsence from crap sites as reliable news.Quote:
Originally Posted by Halvis
Two of the best drivers... then any given team has two of the best drivers (Petter and Chris + Seb and Dani...oops no more M1 teams, do not count Suzuki in) :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Saabaru
Dunno if this has been posted yet...
"VW planning to use the scirocco in the wrc"
http://rallybuzz.stagetimes.com/vw-p...occo-2011-wrc/
Yes?Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
I whould say all 6 top team drivers is "one of the best?" or?
Well with only three teams I guess you have a point.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
Grönholm is back in school, now as a teacher teaching Brittish upcoming rallydrivers, the first ones that got individual teaching was, James Wozencroft, Adam Gould, Jason Pritchard, Alastair Fisher ja Jonny Greer.
You saw this ?
Marcus probably return wrc next year !! Contact with Citroen and Subaru ..
=> http://planetemarcus.free.fr/news08.htm
Other mind, almost rumour .. Loeb retire and P.Solberg too ..
Yes i did, but i dont belive in it for a second, what would be the reason to return, the same travelling and PR crap is still there.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbmarcus21
its a magician they need.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
Rumour that the WRc in Australia next year will allow Australian PRC cars to compete.
If this is so, I will bring out the WRC Daihatsu Charade. Its half a World Rally Car, 1.0lt Turbo FWD.
Ray
Yess .. Marcus retire for this reason.. too many travel around the world.. But rumour announce it too, in Subaru Adapta Team (Ostberg) ... And this team is going to wrc next year with light program, only 10 rounds (and Maybe 2 others rallies far away) .. Maybe a good thing for Marcus to drive a light program. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
Now i belive it, he said him self in TV it's 50/50 possibility, i belive now more in the rumour that Loeb might stop with rally too.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbmarcus21
You mean, Citroen would not have asked Gronholm to step in their team if Loeb was stil there, and if Loeb indeed quites, they need an experienced man to represent them. So asking Gronholm is an indication that Loeb lost his motivation, having dominated the world for 5 years now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
something like that, and other sourses about the Loeb's possible quitting also. Actually now the Mikkelsen test with Citroen comes in new light too, it can maybe be all somehow connected.Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
Who said Citroen asked Marcus?Quote:
Originally Posted by alleskids
Marcus could replace Sordo to make a "SuperTeam" for one year?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
Finnish people can you translate this :
Tuomisen mukaan jo viidettä maailmanmestaruuttaan metsästävä Loeb kaivannee uusia haasteita autourheilun parista.
- Veikkaan, että Loeb ei aja MM-rallia kahta kautta pitempään. En usko, että hänellä riittää motivaatiota, kun MM-sarjassa siirrytään pienempitehoiseen kalustoon, Tuominen viittasi kaudella 2011 tapahtuvaan muutokseen.
- Mutta varmasti Loeb pysyy moottoriurheilun parissa, Tuominen jatkoi.
Tuomisen mukaan tiedot siitä, että Citroen-talli olisi kysellyt Marcus Grönholmia takaisin MM-sarjaan, voivat myös liittyä Loebin lopettamispäätökseen.
- Tietysti herää kysymys, miksi Citroen olisi kysellyt juuri Grönholmin kaltaista huippukuljettajaa takaisin MM-sarjaan, Tuominen totesi.
Did Marcus not say he was asked by Citroen and Subaru and he was 50/50 considering doing it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzz Lightyear
A very rough translation from Google:
According to Tuominen's already the fifth World Cup metsästävä Loeb in need of new challenges in automobile or two.
-- Veikkaan that Loeb does not drive the world championship rally through the two longer. I do not believe that he will have the motivation, when the world championship series move to limited equipment, Tuominen referring to the period 2011 to the change.
-- But surely Loeb remains in a couple of motor sport, Tuominen continued.
Tuominen of the information that a Citroen, the team would have a query, Marcus Grönholm back to the world championship series, may also join the Loeb lopettamispäätökseen.
-- Of course, the question arises as to why the Citroen would be a query, root-like Grönholm huippukuljettajaa back to the world championship series, Tuominen said.