S2000 & Group N, The future of rallying?

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Originally Posted by HaCo

Makes me think of '87... From Gr B to Gr A. Well, it wasn't that bad!

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I agree. Despite what some might think (and what some might have thought at the time), that transition was almost immediately successful. There were some great events in the 1987 WRC — Sweden, Portugal, the 1000 Lakes and the RAC were all excellent.

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Originally Posted by SUBARUNORWAY1

Ok but you can't keep saying that forever, come on the S2000 can't even do a donut on tarmac. The wrc is already underpowered on tarmac.

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I don't think power and the ability to do donuts are everything — far from it.

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Originally Posted by AndyRAC

If S2000 means lots more manufacturers, then I'm all for it. At the moment the WRC is almost a Ford benefit ( not forgetting Citroen). I would prefer S2500, but it doesn't look as if this is possible. A competetive WRC is what we want, if S2000 gives us this then I won't complain.

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And if it means the cars are spectacular, with a mixture of different types represented (as Group A originally allowed), it has tremendous potential.

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Originally Posted by Tom206wrc

A well driven S2000 is already faster than a well driven GrN :rolleyes:

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I agree. Need proof ?? Alen this year at NORF.

You should see what Loix did in the Polo in Belgium: lot's of high speed sideways action + very high jumps too (like in Haspengouw)...

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Originally Posted by A.F.F.

I agree. Need proof ?? Alen this year at NORF.

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Also Magalhaes at Rali de Portugal, Basso in italian championship, Fuster/Hevia in Spain and Bouffier in Poland,... ;)

What do you want? Hi-tech expensive WRCars with 2-3 Manufacturers or Less expensive lower-tech cars with many Manufacturers?

Personally, its a no-brainer,

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Originally Posted by AndyRAC

What do you want? Hi-tech expensive WRCars with 2-3 Manufacturers or Less expensive lower-tech cars with many Manufacturers?

Personally, its a no-brainer,

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But this is not the choice that is to be made, rallying formulas have often been set up to bring in more manufacturers, however history shows that only a couple will succeed and stick at it, dont kid yourself S2000 will be no different, unless rallying moves away from manus and to a common spaceframe silhouette category this situation will always be so

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Originally Posted by cut the b.s.

But this is not the choice that is to be made, rallying formulas have often been set up to bring in more manufacturers, however history shows that only a couple will succeed and stick at it, dont kid yourself S2000 will be no different, unless rallying moves away from manus and to a common spaceframe silhouette category this situation will always be so

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While I know what you mean, I think there's a greater chance of more Manufacturers coming in and joining if the cars are cheaper and easier to produce, obviously there's no guarantee, but the current situation is no good. Something had to be done, it's a case of wait and see

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Originally Posted by AndyRAC

While I know what you mean, I think there's a greater chance of more Manufacturers coming in and joining if the cars are cheaper and easier to produce, obviously there's no guarantee, but the current situation is no good. Something had to be done, it's a case of wait and see

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If we consider Formula 1 then propably the answer to attract more manufacturers lays on the value of the WRC for the manufacturers in terms of promotion and return on their investment and not lets say the costs or the number of events. In F1 only one team/manufacture wins every year but we do not see the other manufactures who loose consistently leaving the series because the association of a manufacturer with f1 is more valuable than the win of a championship.

my opinion.