Alonso back to Renault..........

greater wouldn't be the second to the great :D :)

Lewis is a fast learner, if we don't want him to win, RD should take it responsible for taking him into F1 :D

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Regarding Ferrari, I read this:

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from F1 Technical
Joan Villadelprat, who worked with Alonso when he drove for Minardi, declared to the Spanish newspaper 'Dario AS' that Alonso's option on a Ferrari seat disappeared six years ago. "He had reached a deal to go to Ferrari for five years. Their agreement was final and his agent had even reached a verbal agreement with a handshake. One week later they signed with Briatore and Renault without Todt's consent, guaranteeing that he would never be a driver for Ferrari."

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Following the restructure in Ferrari, This season may be the last year of Jean Todt as the team Boss of Ferrari Racing Team. According to rumours, Ross Brawn (RB) may become the next Boss of the team and under RB all is possible even if JT may still be CEO of ferrari and have a word on how the team is running. I think what they need is a success whoever is driving for them. They will do whatever possible to knock out their main rival : Mclaren. Hiring FA or LH, would be an investment because the guys know already the basic conception of their cars and they can go their with their knoweldge which can help Ferrari in case they fail to solve the problem with the reliability.

But to have a quickest driver doesn't mean you will successed. The obvious example is Ferrari with Kimmi (who is quickest driver on grid). So, there are anothers factors you need to consider which will also the big problem for RD to choose who to show the door.

forget about LH being shown the door. it just aint gonna happen people.

why would you take the biggest cash cow and give him to your competitors. why would you take the best race driver and give that advantage to your opposition?

forget about his racing ability for a moment and look at the cash. Lewis Hamilton is set to become the biggest earning sportsman in the world next year. whatever team he drives for will be able to pick and choose sponsors. The Nike's, Vodafones, Shell, Microsoft etc of this world would love a piece of that car and pay big time. If Ron can hang on to both drivers, with this internal battle being waged in the media, he would have a budget to do whatever he wants but given the choice, he would take Lewis as the bigger puller.

Look at all the boards, all the newspapers, all the pubs and its McLaren / Lewis that people are talking about. Ferrari are second string, Honda and Button forgotten, are Toyota really still in F1, Schumacher is dead so long live the new King. even people that haven't a clue about the Prost / Senna era are reminissing about the "good ole days" and getting excited about F1 again.

If you need more evidence, look at the spectacular rise of BMW recently. they have done a great job to be right up there with a strong 3rd but hardly anyone has noticed them compared to the Lewis roadshow. If you were Norbert, or Ron, or Bernie, would you not do everything to keep him at McLaren and maintain this mouth-watering controvacy with Ferrari.

Christ on a bike, this season has it all. white powder, stolen documents, whistle blowing, Massa Vs Alonso, Lewis Vs Alonso, claim and counter claim. OK, not all of it has been on the track but its been entertaining and has got people watching the sport again. Thats what everyone wants.

As for Hammie boy (and no, that is not a Racist Remark but a term of endearment. Dont drag Racism or supposed racist overtones into this sport thank you ((unless its about the Germans ;) ))) what good would it do the sport if he went to Ferrari. he's just P*ss over everyone and dissapear into the sunset. No, better to keep the battle between Ferrari and McLaren going. Chuck Alonso over there with Kimi and get someone over at McLaren that is more proactive and can work through adversity like Button or Nick.

Flav, Pat, and Renault are not rookies in this buiness and while previous team drivers are usually spoken of in glowing endorsements and politically correct, polite terms by their former teams, very few are welcome, much less invited, to actually come back to the team.

It says much for Alonso and his talent that Renault would welcome him back with open arms. If Renault hadn't been so wishy-washy about staying in F1, it could be Alonso wouldn't have felt the need to leave in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Flat.tyres

forget about LH being shown the door. it just aint gonna happen people..

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Ron is just very p***ed off with both of them [Alonso and Hamilton].”

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Originally Posted by Flat.tyres

why would you take the biggest cash cow and give him to your competitors. why would you take the best race driver and give that advantage to your opposition?..

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Because this may be a little bit rude to the boss :

"Don't ever f***ing do that to me again." and "You can go and f***ing swivel."

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Originally Posted by Flat.tyres

forget about his racing ability for a moment and look at the cash. Lewis Hamilton is set to become the biggest earning sportsman in the world next year. whatever team he drives for will be able to pick and choose sponsors. The Nike's, Vodafones, Shell, Microsoft etc of this world would love a piece of that car and pay big time. If Ron can hang on to both drivers, with this internal battle being waged in the media, he would have a budget to do whatever he wants but given the choice, he would take Lewis as the bigger puller. ..

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Hope the Spy SAGA will be a "joke" at the end :D

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Look at all the boards, all the newspapers, all the pubs and its McLaren / Lewis that people are talking about. Ferrari are second string, Honda and Button forgotten, are Toyota really still in F1, Schumacher is dead so long live the new King. even people that haven't a clue about the Prost / Senna era are reminissing about the "good ole days" and getting excited about F1 again...

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I agree with this one

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Originally Posted by Flat.tyres

If you need more evidence, look at the spectacular rise of BMW recently. they have done a great job to be right up there with a strong 3rd but hardly anyone has noticed them compared to the Lewis roadshow. If you were Norbert, or Ron, or Bernie, would you not do everything to keep him at McLaren and maintain this mouth-watering controvacy with Ferrari...

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That why Mclaren will still be clean on the Spy SAGA to maintain the kid with his blood team.

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Originally Posted by Flat.tyres

Christ on a bike, this season has it all. white powder, stolen documents, whistle blowing, Massa Vs Alonso, Lewis Vs Alonso, claim and counter claim. OK, not all of it has been on the track but its been entertaining and has got people watching the sport again. Thats what everyone wants...

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Still more to come and I enjoyed it as well!!!

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Originally Posted by Flat.tyres

As for Hammie boy (and no, that is not a Racist Remark but a term of endearment. Dont drag Racism or supposed racist overtones into this sport thank you ((unless its about the Germans ;) ))) what good would it do the sport if he went to Ferrari. he's just P*ss over everyone and dissapear into the sunset. No, better to keep the battle between Ferrari and McLaren going. Chuck Alonso over there with Kimi and get someone over at McLaren that is more proactive and can work through adversity like Button or Nick.

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According to Mansell : "....Button is already dead..."

Already Nick is fighting with Kubica, I wonder what will happen with the arrogant Kid. By the way, all both (Button and Nick) are monkeys so easy to rise above them. :D