Here's the door

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Originally Posted by Helstar

You can also leave the forum without saying anything, we'll survive (at least me, I promise) ! :D

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Same goes for you :) Seriously though if you don't want to add anything to this thread and come here to insult you I think it's only fair to ask you to use the door as well. After all J4mie asked that this thread not be a place for personal insults but seemingly you don't understand that.

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Originally Posted by A.F.F.

Hands up who love WRC :wave:

Now hands up who love rallying in general :wave:

I like to go watch national rallying here in Finland even there isn't but a couple of WRC cars. Coming to think of it, there wouldn't be such thing as WRC without rallying in ALL FRIGGING levels.

So why people seem threatened about IRC ???

Oooppssss.... that wasn't whining was it?

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Forgot to reply to you. I want to put my hand up too for both liking the WRC and rallying in general.

I will be looking with interest at what the IRC does as well. But I don't see it being a WRC replacement anytime soon. I don't see it as a threat to the WRC but I am worried people may expect too much from it so soon :)

And yes it was whining. Down with AFF!!!!!! :mark:

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Did I say the series was healthy? No I did not :)

Who cares if F1 makes 10 billion million squillion dollars a year. It's still rubbish and I don't care.

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You don't care, but who are you? You are one voice between millions of them. The people that interests care and yes, F1 is much helthier than WRC, always was, but now is more, because F1 passed the crisis with sucess even if, IMO, the races are and were in last yeras boring. Did you saw in F1 half of the teams droping? I didn't.

If you want to discuss only the rose things in WRC, than please do it. But don't blame from the ones that want a better WRC, and better reality only in the past, because the future is virtual and incertain, and the present is not so good.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Same goes for you :) Seriously though if you don't want to add anything to this thread and come here to insult you I think it's only fair to ask you to use the door as well. After all J4mie asked that this thread not be a place for personal insults but seemingly you don't understand that.

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Didn't you see any irony in my post ? Oh come on, you are the Master of Irony ! (mostly for GiGi - correct to write that right :D ?)

Ps. Where are the insults btw ^^ Then Pino-chet is a joke while my post is full of insults rotfl !!!

Pps. I agree to what you said in the first post. Just didn't want to appear too much on your side by making a 'I quote all' post :p

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Originally Posted by Helstar

Didn't you see any irony in my post ? Oh come on, you are the Master of Irony ! (mostly for GiGi - correct to write that right :D ?)

Ps. Where are the insults btw ^^ Then Pino-chet is a joke while my post is full of insults rotfl !!!

Pps. I agree to what you said in the first post. Just didn't want to appear too much on your side by making a 'I quote all' post

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Ok fair enough :)

If you didn't mean to be rude that's fine with me :)

You have to say Pino-Chet is quite funny huh? :p I know Pino can be strict but he's no military dictator :p

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Originally Posted by JAM

You don't care, but who are you? You are one voice between millions of them. The people that interests care and yes, F1 is much helthier than WRC, always was, but now is more, because F1 passed the crisis with sucess even if, IMO, the races are and were in last yeras boring. Did you saw in F1 half of the teams droping? I didn't.

If you want to discuss only the rose things in WRC, than please do it. But don't blame from the ones that want a better WRC, and better reality only in the past, because the future is virtual and incertain, and the present is not so good.

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JAM I think you misunderstand :) I understand the WRC is not in good shape. I don't think we should ignore this. But to discuss this in every second or third thread lessons the quality of the threads. Just like we had many threads on donuts we could have just had one or two of them, discussed it and have been on our way. When people constantly go on about negative things it becomes annoying. My girlfriend leaves cups of tea around the house with just a bit of tea in and it annoys me. But I don't go off at her everytime I find a half drunk cup of tea laying around. I've said it a few times of course but to go on about it everyday when we have a great relationship is to me quite ungrateful because she does so much for me. I appreciate her for who she is and not what she isn't. She's not perfect and neither is the WRC but I still think they're both damn good :up:

Like I've said 1000 times in this thread if you didn't know anything about the WRC and you came and watched you'd probably think it was pretty cool. Perhaps the glass is half full rather than being totally empty?

Please, put here a list of the negative threads in the last 30 days.

We'll discuss after that.

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Originally Posted by Donney

I thought the forum was open for oppinion and discussion.

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It's still open for opinions and discussions, and I think there's nothing wrong in criticize and moaning about today's WRC. Yes I know that it won't help but if people can't do that in a rally-forum, where can they do that ? at home with the Family ? :s

There is nothing wrong with critisism, as long as its constructive. Anybody who thinks that the WRC is in great shape is living in cloud cuckoo land. WRC is my favourite motorsport but I'm not blind to its faults, and there are many. This year Moto GP and even Formula 1 have been more exciting than WRC, with exciting races and a close final race decider. But just because they are exciting doesn't mean the WRC has to copy their success, as I think has happened before. Rallying is completely different and should remain so, hopefully.

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Originally Posted by pino

It's still open for opinions and discussions, and I think there's nothing wrong in criticize and moaning about today's WRC. Yes I know that it won't help but if people can't do that in a rally-forum, where can they do that ? at home with the Family ? :s

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I agree 100% with you pino, and I know this forum is still open to oppinions, discussion, debating and good laughs. I just don't like the door to be shown to the ones who have a particular way of seeing WRC.