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i agree totally, it was another racing accident, heidfeld went in a bit too hot, but ralf new he was there and coming up the inside, he admitted so in his interview on itv, but didnt give anyroom to avoid a collision. the 60/40 spilt against ralf is spot on. everyone knows ralf is a pretty poor racer he has had more contact than most and hiedfeld is pretty hard but clean. if blame has to be laid anywhere then i feel its on schumachers doorstep not heidfelds
Forget which year, but he crowds in on ralf Schumi (who had some sort of problem and was going slow) as they come out of tunnel and suddenly FA is going backward into the guardrail at 100mph plus
The in-car camera shows FA takes his hands off the stering wheel to give Ralfie the one finger with both hands, grabs the wheel and begins steerring the car almost to where he avoids the crash with the guardrail.
In USA, they showed the incident twice, then stopped after David Hobbs remarked about how remarkably fast fingers that FA had, to salute ralfie then almost regain control going backward after getting a m
"massive bump off poor rold ralfie".
Might have succeeded but it think the car was already too badly damaged by the contasct with RS to have made any difference.
After that, I became a fan of FA--got to give a hand or finger to a man who can do all that in micro seconds while going backward.... :mad: :s mokin:
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Originally Posted by markabilly
It was Monaco 2004
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRv9i...related&search=
He did time at Minardi ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by V12
Here's the clash again, with Spanish subtitles :p :
I don't know what Alonso said to him beforehand, but in my view it was Massa who was behaving more like a "prick" here (to quote ioan :dozey: ) )
http://www.elpais.com/videos/deporte...pepudep_2/Ves/
Anyway who cares, Alonso once again proved he's the rain master :D
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/16/16_3_166.gif
Ioan
I think Alonso has given more than enought proof that he can pass in almost every place with much less space than 10m without kissing his mates. May be it's Felipe who should hold the stearing a bit harder.
Cheers
David
Alonso may be the best F-1 driver right now, but damn does that guy constantly complain.
Massa is always moaning!!!
Alonso proved once more why he is a WDC.
Totally forgot about his 2001 at Minardi there! I still think the collision was 50/50 at best though. Might search YouTube in a bit...
oh... the irony... great proposalQuote:
Originally Posted by ioan
I could see again the difference between a good and a great driver. I hope you enjoyed the race. It was just great. Maybe everything will be undone on Thursday but nonetheless FA will be remembered for this one.
How can one say Massa is the good guy here? He was at fault and heīs the one who starts the dirty talking. I hate this type of fights but I think FM should be told he should mind the others drivers too... He was losing a position here and in Spain and in both cases he "did a race incident"... I donīt think he did it on purpose. I think itīs just poor driving
I think that Fernando has his right to complain because everytime he tries to pass Massa, both touch. And in F1, cars shouldn't touch. If you like this kind of races go nascar or touring cars. Above all, fernando this year has offered plenty of overtaking, and nobody has hitted him once but Massa (twice this year, form two overtakings).
Anyway I don't think Massa did it on purpose, he lost control of the car for a bit and slide onto Fernando's. Nothing wrong here but a very strong and nice fight.
Massa's reaction, altough aggresive, is easy to understand. Nobody wants to loose!
i think that rather to complain, what Alonso was trying to say to massa was: "it doesn't matter if you try to push me out, i will pass!"