I don't think so. Few farmers keep pigs as pets. They want to make profit. The longer they keep their pigs, the more they eat and the less they make money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Firstgear
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I don't think so. Few farmers keep pigs as pets. They want to make profit. The longer they keep their pigs, the more they eat and the less they make money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Firstgear
Well, my family has been in farming since the late 1800's in this area. But go ahead and tell me how farming and slaughter operations work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
Ok, quite a few interesting and valid points here, I own a high spec air rifle and consider myself a responsible shooter. I often help the local farmers with pest control, I certainly dont get any sick thrills from killing things, ie, bloodlust although I do enjoy the satisfaction of the perfect one shot/one kill which I strive for, the satisfaction of me calculating the perfect shot.. marksmanship, while at the same time Im helping the farmer improve his yields. I guess its something that must be difficult to understand if you've been brought up in a sanitised and politically correct environment.
I never shoot anything that isnt a pest, In our neighbourhood, infact throughout Britain generally, we have un-naturaly high magpie No's , they eat the songbirds eggs and kill their young so naturally I am happy to try and give the songbirds a chance to increase their dwindling numbers. Im also happy to despatch the grey squrrels which were introduced to Europe fairly recently (in eco-system terms) and have all but wiped out the native red spieces.
In effect Im trying to redress the balance we (as mankind) upset of our native speices and help the songbird numbers whos natural habitats have also been destroyed through new farming method/techniques and disproportionate magpie numbers. Its not the long term answer but certainly helps meanwhile.
I generally shoot targets to remain a competant shot and Im currently teaching my 8 year old son the basics on gun safety and marksmanship under close supervision which should serve him well for the future.... if he's a survivor of Armagedon. :D
Well of my brothers animals aren't filled up with drugs for a start. Yes, they are given some injections, but no more than you would give a new born baby. They are given high vitamin animal feed but I fail to see how this would give people cancer. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
Wanna come by 'round here and peg a few? Our city is experiencing a similar surge in the magpie population but the city administrators are chosing to do nothing about it :mark:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zico
They inject babies in the UK with the same substances that animals are given?
And to be clear, I don't know what supplements, growth hormones or growth promotants are allowed in the UK. I own no land nor animals in the UK. But I do know that UK beef has been banned in the EU, and some U.S. beef has been banned in the UK and EU. That suggests to me that the meat industry on whole may have a few concerns. If you feel safe with the chemical doctoring that goes on with the meat and fish supply, more power to you.
The banned UK beef was because of the mad cow disease. Growth hormones and genetically engineered food products are forbidden in the whole of EU.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
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Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
Good for him. Last I checked a lot of the feed used in mass agriculture contains all sorts of goodies, UK included. From artificially manipulated protein stock. The grains in the feed are produced from high levels of fertilizers and pesticides. They put all sorts of goodies like sodium and potassium in the food to increase their mass and try to boost muscle accumulation. A lot of the feeds also include some levels of basic immune boosters and or anti-biotics as well.
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Originally Posted by Eki
Depends on the farming strategy. Most times a 6 year hog will make a bigger proffit then a 2 year hog. Unless on a very small farm the pigs will be kept in small pins with barely enough room to turn around as they are fed around the clock and forced to live in mud compromised of their own excrement.
Good times...
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Originally Posted by Eki
And hoof and mouth...
Proteins are still heavily used in the feed stock even if there aren't growth hormones being used...
Didn't say that babies and animals are injected with the same substances, animals are injected with substances designed for animals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
My brother doesn't grow beef, but chemicals used for farming animals, generally help improve the health of the animals, otherwise they wouldn't do it. A healthy animals is a tastier one. I don't get what is so good about organic food. I'd prefer my vegetables to be big and have been sprayed with chemicals, rather than being as shriveled up as a pensioners genitals and have been p****d on by a slug.