2015 Chinese Grand Prix Thread

In all fairness, Grosjean was sitting in a much better position than Pastor, so there may be some promise in the Lotus still. Being how Mercedes, Ferrari, and to a lesser extent Williams have pulled away from the pack being the best of the rest is about all they can hope for with their current drivers lineup. And though Jenson isn't one for many mistakes, he just couldn't decide which way to go when he hit Pastor.

As for Jenson, he had the better of 6/10ths Fernando all weekend, and only that bonehead move let Alonso get by him. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. The last time Alonso was at McLaren the lack of being #1 by default resulted in being beaten by Lewis..... just barely, but beaten in the same car. If Button gets the better of Fred I don't know what I'll think.... has Alonso lost his edge or have I rated Jenson lower than I should have?


I thought the Ferrari strategy was also interesting. They were driving Kimi to a time delta, and seemed to want him to stay back and clear of Vettels dirty air. He ended up with fresher tires at the end, and seemingly some pace over Vettel. I think he got close enough that Vettel would have responded, as he was almost in DRS range. But in any case the safety car came out, and even if Kimi could catch him passing him would have been another story.

As for Mercedes, still ahead of the pack, but I personally think they changed tire strategy to cover the Ferrari's. At least someone is close enough to make them think now, and if humans are thinking, they can screw up on occasion. I think if Ferrari keeps doing what they are doing, they have a chance at some more race wins, or at least getting ahead of one of the Mercedes. And there are a few tracks where the power advantage of the Mercedes won't help as much, and we have a chance at some good side by side on track fights. I think all four of the drivers in those cars are capable of giving us a good show when that happens.

Nico? He just needs to get Lewis out of his head. He showed last year he can get the car on pole, and if he can get his head down and do that this year it will be a major change and Lewis will have to fight back over the race distance.

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Originally Posted by airshifter

As for Jenson, he had the better of 6/10ths Fernando all weekend, and only that bonehead move let Alonso get by him. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. The last time Alonso was at McLaren the lack of being #1 by default resulted in being beaten by Lewis..... just barely, but beaten in the same car. If Button gets the better of Fred I don't know what I'll think.... has Alonso lost his edge or have I rated Jenson lower than I should have?

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Not exactly my brotha', you just didn't get the whole story!

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Only Button had new diffuser in China - report - Nextgen-Auto.com Motorsport, all the racing information. News, results, photos and videos from F1, Rally, WRC, IRC, WTCC, GP2, Endurance, Forums

Fernando Alonso demonstrated his "good mood" by happily racing a step behind teammate Jenson Button in China.
That is the claim of Germany’s Auto Motor und Sport, revealing that the specification of the Spaniard’s McLaren-Honda in Shanghai was not quite up to speed with the sister car.
The report said only one version of a new diffuser was brought by McLaren to China, and Alonso "generously" let teammate Button have it aboard his silver car.
Some believe the component is worth a couple of tenths per lap, and Alonso will have use of it in Bahrain this weekend.
http://www.bloob.fr/f1-formula-1-new...om-113822.html

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Fred, good mood, giving it up for his dawg "Jense" Maybe Fred isn't as self centered and greedy as you would like to believe.....anymore ;) Although I think that if they were fighting at the sharp end (which will happen this season) Zo would have gotten it first. That is if Jenson wasn't whippin' his a$$, which I don't think will happen, but he could punk him as badly as The Boss did, but nothing like the as$-whippin' Fred gave to Kimi last year :laugh:

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Finally, Alonso declined to be drawn into a row with his former teammate Kimi Raikkonen, after the Ferrari driver became impatient during the Chinese race.

"Come on, get that McLaren out of the way!" the Finn raged over the radio in Shanghai.
Alonso was quoted afterwards by the Spanish daily Marca: "I don’t say anything, because we are very slow compared to them."

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:sailor: Sorry to burst your bubble ....mate! ;)

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Originally Posted by airshifter

It would seem to me that some clown is whining and crying that some are stating as fact that Hamilton controlled the race and Rosberg whined. I agree that it is ridiculous. If a driver is faster they pass. The driver in front controls the pace they want to run, and has no obligation to move to keep a crying driver behind from getting butt hurt about it.

I think it's comical that you pretend to post without bias, especially in light of your sig line. Anyone not biased against Hamilton will in your view be a fanboi.

Lewis had the better of Nico all weekend long. It's really that easy. If anyone needs a tissue, get over it and quit blaming it on bias. :)

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thanks airshifter. i wasn't even going to bother to respond, and thankfully you summed up my sentiments succinctly.

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Originally Posted by airshifter

1It would seem to me that some clown is whining and crying that some are stating as fact that Hamilton controlled the race and2 Rosberg whined. I agree that it is ridiculous. If a driver is faster they pass. The driver in front controls the pace they want to run, and has no obligation to move to keep a crying driver behind from getting butt hurt about it.

3I think it's comical that you pretend to post without bias, especially in light of your sig line. Anyone not biased against Hamilton will in your view be a fanboi.

Lewis had the better of Nico all weekend long. It's really that easy. If anyone needs a tissue, get over it and quit blaming it on bias. :)

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1 Who are you talking about?

2 What exactly did he say that constitutes "whined"? I've not read any quote that can be regarded as "whining". However, he did state a view opposite to what Hamilton. So what?

3 lol I hope you're not accusing me of bias. Regarding the 2008 season. Does a biased person say this?

http://www.motorsportforums.com/show...=1#post1018161

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Originally Posted by journeyman racer

Personally? I don't think Massa has the quality of Hamilton. So I'm ok with Hamilton claiming the title,

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truefan and TBK do drag down discussions. truefan's first post itt is a classic example.

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Originally Posted by rjbetty

Remember TBK was praising Nico and rating him highly during the 2013 pre-season.

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TBK called Rosberg a "cunt" a few weeks ago. So don't worry about what he said during the 2013 pre-season.

Regarding my sig? It'll prevent me from having rsi. I'll gladly adjust/remove any of it, if it can be disproven.

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Originally Posted by Tazio

Fred, good mood, giving it up for his dawg "Jense" Maybe Fred isn't as self centered and greedy as you would like to believe.....anymore ;) Although I think that if they were fighting at the sharp end (which will happen this season) Zo would have gotten it first. That is if Jenson wasn't whippin' his a$$, which I don't think will happen, but he could punk him as badly as The Boss did, but nothing like the as$-whippin' Fred gave to Kimi last year :laugh:

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If I were going to a team where I had a very bad reputation and the car was an absolute dog with no chance of scoring points, I would gladly "sacrifice" myself. It wasn't going to make much of a difference in the race result and it would improve my status with the team. This is not necessarily Zo being a team player but rather trying to improve his relationship with the team without losing anything of value.

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Originally Posted by airshifter

As for Jenson, he had the better of 6/10ths Fernando all weekend, and only that bonehead move let Alonso get by him.

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That wasn't the impression I got, to me they looked pretty much even. There was, what, 4 thousandths between them in qualifying? I don't read too much into free practice times. McLaren split their strategies but ultimately they ended up in the same place on the track with only a few laps to go. I think there's a strong chance Alonso would have got by anyway with the option tyre and finished ahead of Button. Alonso getting past off the start was the decisive moment of the race between them.

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Originally Posted by journeyman racer

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truefan and TBK do drag down discussions. truefan's first post itt is a classic example.

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this is getting pathetic and sad on your part journeyman
nothing in my comments were inflammatory or reached the kind of depths of vitriol that yours have been poisoning the forum with. go back and read the comment then compare it to your various proceeding posts which are laced with insults, personal attacks and of course, false equivalencies. I responded to your initial general post asking you to go read the rosberg comments first before spewing unwarranted attacks and it took you a whole 4 days to do so, in the meanwhile continuing to lob attacks on fellow poster and at one point claiming " I don't need to read the rosberg comments..."

Nothing i have said has been out of order and in fact has been backed by the vast majority of poster many who were rosberg fans or not even hamilton fans in the first place. but yet you continue down an unproductive path of tripe, while falsely claiming i and others started some sort of fracas. when the entirety of the nonsense has come from you.

This is the last i'll say on the matter and advice you to put me on your ignore list if you seriously have an issue with my posts. While i reserve that action for the most serious offenders in my book, it might be time to do the same.

my apologies in advance to pino for having to uselessly take up room to respond to a belligerent member.