Re: Formula 1 season finale to be worth double points from 2
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Originally Posted by JasonPotato
If you think that's the dumbest then you shouldn't be watching touring cars. It works perfectly for the series, considering there is 3 races in 1 day. It gives everyone a chance to aim for a top 10 position and potentially be on pole and win a race! It's great to see one of the lesser teams leading and trying to hold his own. Which would never happen in F1. Maybe they could just reverse the top 10 everytime but it's great the fact there's a little mystery as to who will start pole last race. Plus watching the leaders come through the pack!
Surely you must admit the wheel of fortune with the drivers' faces on it was an utterly ridiculous spectacle.
Re: Formula 1 season finale to be worth double points from 2
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Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
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Originally Posted by Bagwan
This would be different if , say , the double points offer came in if the rabbit out front was over a certain number of points ahead .
That would be contrived .
But , it is known by all that the final race is doubled .
It should simply mean that Mr. Rabbit will need to be much farther ahead to be able to claim the title early .
Is that so bad ?
Your favourite racer may still be in with a chance at the final race because of this rule .
Why be so cruel to him by denying him his chance at it ?
I thought you liked him .
Very simple. The rival of your favourite driver needed at least three races to build up a 49 points lead over your favourite driver, who now suddenly get's the chance to erase such a big gap with a single race win, if the rival DNF's just once. It's a big honking DRS for points. Overtaking with no chance for the opponent to fight back. Why don't we just install guns on the cars? :hmph:
The rival driver may have built up the 50 point lead over your favourite because of two DNFs .
And he has the same chance at the final 50 as your favourite .
How is that like DRS ?
Re: Formula 1 season finale to be worth double points from 2
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Originally Posted by AndyL
Surely you must admit the wheel of fortune with the drivers' faces on it was an utterly ridiculous spectacle.
A bag of balls numbered 6-10 is enough. Same outcome. Certainly wouldn't like it a fixed position otherwise you'll have people fighting or deliberately slowing down to get pole in the last race. Like we had a few years ago!
For me i wish they would go back to the late 90's format, 1 sprint race and 1 feature race with pitstops but that's a debate for another time.
Re: Formula 1 season finale to be worth double points from 2
In December 2014, after a year that ended in a run-away victory for Sebastian Vettel,
The FIA decided that a change in rules was in order as the previous change to the points
system, awarding double points for the final race, created huge controversy in an unjust world
champion who nicked it at the last race having been 46 points behind before the final race.
To rectify this in the 2015 season, The FIA has announced, all drivers will therefore be awarded a multiplier
on their points based on the first letter of their last name. This multiplier will work on
the same number of points awarded to a letter in Scrabble, thus awarding the more uncommon
letters. V- for Vettel would give a 4x multiplier while K- Kovalainen would get a 5x multiplier.
The true excitement would lie in the high influx of drivers with last names starting with Z and Q
for a whopping 10x multiplier.
Re: Formula 1 season finale to be worth double points from 2
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Originally Posted by Bagwan
The rival driver may have built up the 50 point lead over your favourite because of two DNFs .
And he has the same chance at the final 50 as your favourite .
How is that like DRS ?
Which driver do you hope to luck into an undeserved title because of this rubbish? :confused:
We have 19 races a year and each of them counts the same. Making one of them count double is patently unfair. someone can be ultra-reliable all year and be Pastor'ed in the last race and could lose everything because someone said : 'Y'know this race counts double for no reason.'
If they want to have double points they should adapt the challenge accordingly, i.e. make the race double length on a track that justifies such raise in importance. Do you think, just because Alonso would have lucked to the 2012 title that way, it'll gonna happen again? What if it is your favourite man, who is miles ahead, but get's T-boned by Maldonado and loses all season's work in a single race. Are you going to be as enthusiastic about this FIA/FOM brain fart, too?
Re: Formula 1 season finale to be worth double points from 2
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Originally Posted by Whyzars
...If F1 want to influence the championship then for qualifying, all cars should carry a kilogram handicap for every championship point they have. This extra weight would be removed for the race. ...
As a long time fan of the sport I used to adamantly oppose the idea of penalizing faster cars with ballast, but now, with all the recent gimmicks and regulations introduced, I’m beginning to think it’s perhaps the better option :mark: .
Re: Formula 1 season finale to be worth double points from 2
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Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
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Originally Posted by Bagwan
The rival driver may have built up the 50 point lead over your favourite because of two DNFs .
And he has the same chance at the final 50 as your favourite .
How is that like DRS ?
Which driver do you hope to luck into an undeserved title because of this rubbish? :confused:
We have 19 races a year and each of them counts the same. Making one of them count double is patently unfair. someone can be ultra-reliable all year and be Pastor'ed in the last race and could lose everything
If they want to have double points they should adapt the challenge accordingly, i.e. make the race double length on a track that justifies such raise in importance. Do you think, just because Alonso would have lucked to the 2012 title that way, it'll gonna happen again? What if it is your favourite man, who is miles ahead, but get's T-boned by Maldonado and loses all season's work in a single race. Are you going to be as enthusiastic about this FIA/FOM brain fart, too?
Gosh dj , you do have a way with words .
"because someone said : 'Y'know this race counts double for no reason.' is not at all accurate , is it ?
The reason is to try to disadvantage a rabbit from getting the crown too early .
I think that's pretty clear .
I can agree that an extra challenge would be nice , to further justify the extra points , but I don't feel it's essential .
Whereas you would condone the same situation , with a Maldonado T-bone and all , if the race was simply longer ?
Would you have as much hatred for the idea if the race that was worth double points was the first race of the season ?
Re: Formula 1 season finale to be worth double points from 2
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Originally Posted by all-rally
In December 2014, after a year that ended in a run-away victory for Sebastian Vettel,
The FIA decided that a change in rules was in order as the previous change to the points
system, awarding double points for the final race, created huge controversy in an unjust world
champion who nicked it at the last race having been 46 points behind before the final race.
To rectify this in the 2015 season, The FIA has announced, all drivers will therefore be awarded a multiplier
on their points based on the first letter of their last name. This multiplier will work on
the same number of points awarded to a letter in Scrabble, thus awarding the more uncommon
letters. V- for Vettel would give a 4x multiplier while K- Kovalainen would get a 5x multiplier.
The true excitement would lie in the high influx of drivers with last names starting with Z and Q
for a whopping 10x multiplier.
:D
While that is a highly credible idea by current F1 standards, unfortunately it makes Vettel even more dominant - he would have finished this season with more points than Webber and Hamilton (2nd and 3rd respectively) combined. I'd suggest using the scrabble score of the driver's entire last name as the multiplier. It would have been a close finish between Vettel (9 points) and Raikkonen (17 points). Plus this system would surely see 20-pointer Hulkenberg finally getting the top drive that he deserves.
Re: Formula 1 season finale to be worth double points from 2
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Originally Posted by AndyL
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Originally Posted by all-rally
In December 2014, after a year that ended in a run-away victory for Sebastian Vettel,
The FIA decided that a change in rules was in order as the previous change to the points
system, awarding double points for the final race, created huge controversy in an unjust world
champion who nicked it at the last race having been 46 points behind before the final race.
To rectify this in the 2015 season, The FIA has announced, all drivers will therefore be awarded a multiplier
on their points based on the first letter of their last name. This multiplier will work on
the same number of points awarded to a letter in Scrabble, thus awarding the more uncommon
letters. V- for Vettel would give a 4x multiplier while K- Kovalainen would get a 5x multiplier.
The true excitement would lie in the high influx of drivers with last names starting with Z and Q
for a whopping 10x multiplier.
:D
While that is a highly credible idea by current F1 standards,
unfortunately it makes Vettel even more dominant - he would have finished this season with more points than Webber and Hamilton (2nd and 3rd respectively) combined. I'd suggest using the scrabble score of the driver's entire last name as the multiplier. It would have been a close finish between Vettel (9 points) and Raikkonen (17 points). Plus this system would surely see 20-pointer Hulkenberg finally getting the top drive that he deserves.
My bolding & underling.
Having Abu as double may advantage Vettel as well - he's won 3 of the 5 races held there.
I imagine the FIA have come up with this scheme because fans are losing interest towards the end of the season (you only need to check posts on this forum to confirm this). Teams also are putting less effort into development towards the end if their positions as constructors are pretty much assured, and that's understandable.
If they really feel they need to do something like this - maybe they could reward the more difficult races as double. For example, the races known as "drivers circuit" like Monaco, and put them at the end of the calendar. Or perhaps "wet" races are double - with Brazil at the end of the calendar making it a 50/50 as to whether it might be double or not.
Just kind of brainstorming there - but I don't think either of my suggestions is any worse than what the FIA has gone with.
Re: Formula 1 season finale to be worth double points from 2
Even though Vettel , the current rabbit might still win it , the whole point seems to be to keep him from winning it all until the end of the season .
I like that idea about the wet race , Firstgear , but moving races to the rainy season in any given place is maybe going a little too far .
Having said that , though , I do love the rain that Brazil drops into the mix , too .
