2014 Silly Season

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Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster

It's not so difficult. Both Vettel and Alonso still have contracts. They could swap and RB pays a lower fee as Alonso's contract runs a year longer.
The times of Vettel being RB's precious are over. He publicly humiliated the team in Malaysia and his race engineer again at Monaco. TJ13 reports there have been a lot of forced smiles in the RB camp since then.

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TJ13? What has that source said?

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The relationship between Ferrari and Alonso already have hit rock bottom. when was a multiple world champion bitch-slapped so publicly like Alonso yesterday and on his birthday, too. I think he's locked horns with them one time too often.

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Actually yeah, you might have a point with that. If that had been the first or second time Alonso has angered Luca, then he would not have bitchslapped Alonso like that. I remember there was some incident last year with Pat Fry too at the India GP, but don't remember the details anymore.

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

TJ13? What has that source said?

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TJ13 is a specialized on F1 blog, maintained by a guy, who has several sources within most of the teams (Mechanics, soigneurs, Roadies). Usually beats the mainstream media to the big news by up to two weeks. They said immediately after Malaysia that Vettel's status as the golden boy was thoroughly thrashed after Malaysia, especially since sugar daddy Mateschitz is a Webber fanboi.

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

Actually yeah, you might have a point with that. If that had been the first or second time Alonso has angered Luca, then he would not have bitchslapped Alonso like that. I remember there was some incident last year with Pat Fry too at the India GP, but don't remember the details anymore.

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At India last year, Alonso threw a tantrum in the garage. He threatened the team to tweet that they haven't developed the car all year if they don't get their shyte together in a damn hurry. team play looks different...

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Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster

TJ13 is a specialized on F1 blog, maintained by a guy, who has several sources within most of the teams (Mechanics, soigneurs, Roadies). Usually beats the mainstream media to the big news by up to two weeks. They said immediately after Malaysia that Vettel's status as the golden boy was thoroughly thrashed after Malaysia, especially since sugar daddy Mateschitz is a Webber fanboi.

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Thanks, I did not know of that blog.

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At India last year, Alonso threw a tantrum in the garage. He threatened the team to tweet that they haven't developed the car all year if they don't get their shyte together in a damn hurry. team play looks different...

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:laugh: Yeah, that was it.
He should be called the blackmail boy. I mean, how stupid and immature do you have to be to actually think threatning to tweet something like that would be productive? :laugh:

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

:laugh: Yeah, that was it.
He should be called the blackmail boy. I mean, how stupid and immature do you have to be to actually think threatning to tweet something like that would be productive? :laugh:

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IIRC he also tried to pull something like that off while he was at McLaren. I have the utmost respect for him as a driver. He's capable of truly magnificent drives. Maybe not Senna-Donnington-93 or Schumacher-Barcelone-96 brilliant, but brilliant nonetheless. As a person, however, his style leaves a lot to be desired. There is a fine line between being ruthlessly determined like Senna and just being an arrogant twat. I'm afraid currently he slots in to the second category :S

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Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster

IIRC he also tried to pull something like that off while he was at McLaren.

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Yep, that is why I said that. Ended up costing McLaren 100 million dollars :laugh: -

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I have the utmost respect for him as a driver. He's capable of truly magnificent drives. Maybe not Senna-Donnington-93 or Schumacher-Barcelone-96 brilliant, but brilliant nonetheless. As a person, however, his style leaves a lot to be desired. There is a fine line between being ruthlessly determined like Senna and just being an arrogant twat. I'm afraid currently he slots in to the second category :S

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Yes. Alonso is a great driver. That he did not win the title last year is a shame, because he was amazing in so many GPs. Yet as a person, there is a lot to be desired. I mean Senna was utterly utterly ruthless and so was Schumacher (quality that I actually rate highly), but Alonso is even worse, to the degree of being counter-productive.

Red Bull knows of Alonsos antics, most teams do.

I admire Alonso's optimistic attitude in public interviews. Some other person could have become extremely bitter after seeing, what, like three titles slip out of his hand.

By the way, has anyone heard of Raikkonen to Ferrari rumors?

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Originally Posted by zako85

I admire Alonso's optimistic attitude in public interviews. Some other person could have become extremely bitter after seeing, what, like three titles slip out of his hand.

By the way, has anyone heard of Raikkonen to Ferrari rumors?

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Kimi was asked about that today in Helsinki where is enjoying his holiday. No comment :)

What I think for the 2014 grid is this:

RedBull: Vettel - Ricciardo/Raikonnen
Ferrari: Alonso - Massa/Hulkenberg
Mercedes: Hamilton - Rosberg
Lotus: Raikonnen/Ricciardo - Grosjean/Maldonado
McLaren: Button - Perez
FIF1: diResta/Bianchi - Sutil/Valsecchi/Calado/Nasr
STR: Ricciardo/da Costa - Vergne
Williams: Bottas - Maldonado/Magnussen/Nasr
Sauber: Hulkenberg/Frijns/Bianchi/Petrov/Sirotkin (though I think he wouldn't make it)
Caterham: Pic/Rossi/vd Garde/Nasr
Marussia: Nasr/Magnussen/Bianchi - Chilton

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Originally Posted by lars75

What I think for the 2014 grid is this:

RedBull: Vettel - Ricciardo/Raikonnen
Ferrari: Alonso - Massa/Hulkenberg
Mercedes: Hamilton - Rosberg
Lotus: Raikonnen/Ricciardo - Grosjean/Maldonado
McLaren: Button - Perez
FIF1: diResta/Bianchi - Sutil/Valsecchi/Calado/Nasr
STR: Ricciardo/da Costa - Vergne
Williams: Bottas - Maldonado/Magnussen/Nasr
Sauber: Hulkenberg/Frijns/Bianchi/Petrov/Sirotkin (though I think he wouldn't make it)
Caterham: Pic/Rossi/vd Garde/Nasr
Marussia: Nasr/Magnussen/Bianchi - Chilton

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so basically anything is possible

lol