LH says he made FM do that fault

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Originally Posted by truefan72

I completely agree. It was first rate racing. Massa was hounding him and over eager to make the pass, LH found a spot that would allow him to outbrake and outmaneuver him in a wide braking section of the track and purposely left the door wide both times. He knew that Massa would take the bait both times with the 2nd attempt being even more agreesive than the first.

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I suppose he also has some telepathic powers and knew that Massa will twice miss his braking point? :rolleyes:

BTW how can the one in front out brake the one coming from behind? It's like saying that Hamilton passed Massa!

Ioan give it up please!!!!

if he were driving a Ferrari, you would be singing his praises to no end. Just be rational for once when it comes to non ferrari drivers. Wow such petulance and stubborness is uncanny.

and yes, he did outbrake him...technically he did pass massa, twice as mass was leading into the turn twice
You may root for your favorite team and driver, but you cannot change facts
I wonder if you, like Massa were "surprised by the McClaren speed" LOL
http://www.eurosport.com/formula1/ma...o1143302.shtml

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Originally Posted by ioan

I suppose he also has some telepathic powers and knew that Massa will twice miss his braking point? :rolleyes:

BTW how can the one in front out brake the one coming from behind? It's like saying that Hamilton passed Massa!

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I guess i'm telepathic too, while driving race sims online, i often lured opponents into coming in too hot into corners while braking earlier and turning into corners with better exit speeds, it only worked with amateurish drivres though. ;)

Its a classic sucker move! You rush up to the corner and brake as late as you can but give the guy some room on the inside but dirty line, the other guy will try to out brake you and you pull up early and he overshoots the corner. I have done it trying to pass someone, come up the outside and look like you are going to go in real deep and go around the outside but brake at the last minute and switch back as the other guy comes in real deep to out brake you and bingo he goes wide and you slip through on the inside. But as I say the other guy has to be a sucker and I think that Massa must fit that bill as thats what he did. Fell foul of the sucker treatment! Now a smarter driver would not make that mistake as all you have to do is be cool and just pull up beside that driver and he will have nowere to go!

It was a brilliant move. He made Massa look like a fool. I used to think FM was a mediocre driver and then changed my mind. He still has time to prove he can be WDC but I for one begin to doubt it seriously. In Australia he had by far the Fastest car but he only managed to finish 6th. That's a very poor result. KR, in Bahrain last year, got 3rd after starting last and this in a car that was behind the renaults and the ferraris. He wasn't able to pass Heidfeld...!!!

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Originally Posted by ioan

I suppose he also has some telepathic powers and knew that Massa will twice miss his braking point? :rolleyes:

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I don't see why you are finding it so difficult to understand.

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Originally Posted by eu

It was a brilliant move. He made Massa look like a fool. I used to think FM was a mediocre driver and then changed my mind. He still has time to prove he can be WDC but I for one begin to doubt it seriously. In Australia he had by far the Fastest car but he only managed to finish 6th. That's a very poor result. KR, in Bahrain last year, got 3rd after starting last and this in a car that was behind the renaults and the ferraris. He wasn't able to pass Heidfeld...!!!

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:rolleyes: Comparing Australia with Bahrain, nothing it's the same, not even the tracks.

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Originally Posted by BeansBeansBeans

I don't see why you are finding it so difficult to understand.

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Maybe because I have no Queen?
Or maybe I just think before believing whatever is said?
Maybe both.

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Originally Posted by ioan

Maybe because I have no Queen?
Or maybe I just think before believing whatever is said?
Maybe both.

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I have no problem with you questioning Lewis Hamilton's version of events in this instance. However, you seem to be suggesting that it isn't possible for a driver to trick an into outbraking himself, when it clearly is.

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Originally Posted by ioan

:rolleyes: Comparing Australia with Bahrain, nothing it's the same, not even the tracks.

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What has that got to do with anything? Both circuits have corners on them at which it is possible to overtake by various means. This is quite a major similarity when discussing overtaking.