Alonso and Ferrari - What's in going to take?

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Originally Posted by Dr Giacomo Rappaccini

Vettel was 3 points better than Alonso.

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Taz , I think you'd better change that to "Vettel got 3 more points than Alonso" to avoid a "better" argument .

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

While it might not have such a hard thing to get past him , all of us would put it in context , regarding the respective cars , so I doubt Michael would be too bothered about being shown up , so I'm so sure about "a)" .

As for "b)" , sure , Luca would see the chance for being tripped up by Michael go away , and would be saddened by it , as it's a part of the game . Team orders are legal , and so , I guess , is helping another team , even if you don't stand to benefit yours .

In a wet race there is every chance that Torro Rosso wouldn't make the end , or that it might have tripped into Vettel itself , had Sebastian been backed into it with a defending Michael .

It was one of the last straws that Ferrari could grasp , and Michael retired the position before retiring after the race .

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I've just started a new thread to discuss this so please continue there :)

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

Taz , I think you'd better change that to "Vettel got 3 more points than Alonso" to avoid a "better" argument .

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I will not :angryfire ;) :p :
I will let my post stand for what is worth, at face value, with no inclination to defend it against any and all attacks. As I stated it is an "existential" comment, but since you rattled my cage I would like to add a caveat to my post; Alonso went down fighting in style. He was pushing a twitchy car to the max in wet conditions, and I can say without fear of recrimination that he drove his a$$ off in the last race, and all season. I can't ask for more than that.

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Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster

fanbase frothing at the mouth

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Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster

the raging Spanish fans [...]
Spanish fans went ape-excrement

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I honestly don't know where you get your info from, unless it's the Berliner kurier or the Bild :laugh:

Not even Spanish TV's Baldy was frothing, and he's in love with Alonso - fact ! :andrea:

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Originally Posted by donKey jote

I honestly don't know where you get your info from, unless it's the Berliner kurier or the Bild :laugh:

Not even Spanish TV's Baldy was frothing, and he's in love with Alonso - fact ! :andrea:

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I've visited a few websites. The sky sports comment sections and those on YallaF1 - one of the first Internet rags to run the Vergne video - were chock full of spaniards, who wrote stuff that would get you an instant ban in here. Mind you, the british were close seconds. Since I generally steer clear of German media, because they're just one big Vettel circle-jerk, I mainly read british papers and many of the comments there made me think it's 1942 ...

None of those are Spanish media, but fairy muff :andrea:
I steer clear of German rags, British rags and Spanish rags too except for a laugh... and my regular reads are BBC.co.uk, Spiegel Online and Elpais.es for a fair and balanced view of the world.
For an unfair but at least balanced view of F1, I watch the races on German, UK and Spanish TV (yes, often simultaneously :laugh: ) :)

BBC has great columnists but some of the fans who post there are appalling.

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Originally Posted by donKey jote

For an unfair but at least balanced view of F1, I watch the races on German, UK and Spanish TV (yes, often simultaneously :laugh: ) :)

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Man, you must be really resistent to pain :D

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Originally Posted by donKey jote

None of those are Spanish media, but fairy muff :andrea:

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I checked out El Mundo and As as they were reported to stir the fire most. My Spanish is nowhere near as good as English or Russian, but it was enough to gather that they threw quite a bit of fuel to the fire.

El Mundo is very much Jeckyll & Hyde. On the one hand considered one of the mainstream serious papers alongside El Pais for example, but on the other it still promotes conspiracy theories (like ETA being involved in the Madrid bombings and a police cover-up to steal the elections from Aznar) just to sell.
As for As ( ;) ) it's nothing more than the Real Madrid version of Marca :laugh:
I for one rarely take a look at either of them, except for a laugh when there's some controversy going :p :andrea: