Kris meeke- the fastest driver with no seat

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Originally Posted by A.F.F.

It's amazing that teams fail to see there is the best driver in the world available!! :eek:

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No one has said that, and before you start there is a reason why Gaardemeister, Raantenen, Ketomaa etc haven't made it - Ashphalt!! (even Mikko)
Come on 'oo wants some!!

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Originally Posted by rallyfun

8 out of 10 titles in last 10 years and you think Citroen is not the best?

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Ah hem - I wouldn't have said that !!

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Originally Posted by rallyfun

If you read carefully my posts you don't find anything to rubbish Meeke's abiity or achievements and I said I like him. But can't agree he's the best driver without WRC seat as there are plenty of drivers probably better than him. And gloryfy his IRC title or stage win and ignore other drivers achievements is just not fair. I gave some examples already based on facts not my feelings.

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It's not just you, but others too who seem to think Meeke is nothing special. As I said, he's not the best in the world, but he's a solid driver who has shown he can compete with and beat the Ostberg's of this world, and that's no mean feat. But I am interested as to your view about who is better than Meeke who hasn't got a seat at the moment. Because I can't think of any except Hanninen (who's contracted to Skoda anyway!).

Also, this is nothing to do with Meeke's nationality - I'm as un-patriotic as they come and am not even a fan of Meeke, but still can recognise his ability.

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Originally Posted by stefanvv

No, Citroen is not the best team in WRC, but Loeb is the best driver. Meeke can do well not only with Citroen, if you think so, we are wasting time over here in this thread.

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Really?

Jeez... I didn't know some British fans could get so mad about something like this...

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Originally Posted by Mintexmemory

No one has said that, and before you start there is a reason why Gaardemeister, Raantenen, Ketomaa etc haven't made it - Ashphalt!! (even Mikko)
Come on 'oo wants some!!

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Before I start... I'll let you come sober again :p

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Originally Posted by A.F.F.

Before I start... I'll let you come sober again :p

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:beer: :p :

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Originally Posted by EightGear

Jeez... I didn't know some British fans could get so mad about something like this...

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It's quite annoying how this looked like a British thing, but I don't think it is. The fact Meeke is from Northern Ireland means nothing to me and has no bearing on how I see him. It's more the point blank naivety and denial from some people that's a bit annoying. As for Mintexmemory, I'm pretty sure half the rage is alcohol-related :P

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Originally Posted by pettersolberg29

It's not just you, but others too who seem to think Meeke is nothing special. As I said, he's not the best in the world, but he's a solid driver who has shown he can compete with and beat the Ostberg's of this world, and that's no mean feat. But I am interested as to your view about who is better than Meeke who hasn't got a seat at the moment. Because I can't think of any except Hanninen (who's contracted to Skoda anyway!).

Also, this is nothing to do with Meeke's nationality - I'm as un-patriotic as they come and am not even a fan of Meeke, but still can recognise his ability.

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That is the problem of this topic as we can't really be right with any driver until we put them into the cars and let them drive few rallies. But hipothetically if we talk strictly about WRC and by that I mean WRC cars with "proper" program there is plenty (Ogier, Sordo, Mikkelsen, Hanninen, PG Andersson, Abrring, Duval). Of course first 3 will have a seat next season apparently but I guess we talk about 2012.

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Originally Posted by pettersolberg29

It's quite annoying how this looked like a British thing, but I don't think it is. The fact Meeke is from Northern Ireland means nothing to me and has no bearing on how I see him. It's more the point blank naivety and denial from some people that's a bit annoying. As for Mintexmemory, I'm pretty sure half the rage is alcohol-related :P

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Actuallly I'm as sober as a judge! I just get annoyed when people don't support their prejudices with reasoned argument. Sweeping statements like 'he had his chance and he blew it' demonstrate a superficiality that is mind-blowing in its profundity (make sense of that I dare you).
Just like you, this is anything but nationalistic I just have found, late in life, that I'm BS-intolerant!