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Are You really believe that it makes WRC healthier? I don't.
Agreed, Rally GB is an insult to the former RAC. This years format is just pathetic.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Damn man you made me think back to when I heard of rally. They were BIG adventures. Old Monte Carlo with its starting points all over all of Europe. Old Tulpen rally, Old Alpine, old Safari, real RAC...and oddly they had hundreds of entries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josti
Now..everything is little short sprints, zero endurance element, near perfect cars that are virtually identical except headlights and paint...
I say its the adventure vs spectacle dichotomy. Everything has been sacrificed for the "spectacle" killing the wonder at the adventure..
And while big jumps and sideways action is a trat to the eyes, the power of imagination at the scale of BIG adventures is better.
The imagination is bigger than just a 0.3 seconds flash in the TV.
Maybe if we didn't know or had never heard of the giant cross continental or all round the whole country type events, we'd be better fan-boys and could argue about FIA cheating for Loeb "because the FIA is French" and that sort of brilliant analysis.
The thing is you have to have balance between the logic and the heart...
Yes Jordan is useless but we need an event there because people support the sport financially... we also need Gemany, Spain, Italy, France and The UK because they are huge markets.
USA, Japan, China and Russia should be tested to see the response, if the people there do not seem interested we can bin them...
The rest like Finland, greece, New Zeland, Australia ect are basically in, because of tradition.
So we must clarify in this thread the reasons we want an event in the sport....if we have 10-14 events all based in tradition then we are not going to have any sport in a few years time, so we must find the balance.
I am awesome !!!
Surely there is room for a 'middle ground'. Some events are suitable for 'Sprint type' events. Other, Monte, GB, Acropolis, etc are more an Endurance test. I don't have a problem with having sprint events like Finland last week. However, that needs to be balanced by having events of an Endurance element. So, start Thursday lunch time and have 3 1/2 full days of action, with days of 07:00 - 20:00....Isn't that feasible?Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
Does anybody think we need to think about having a return to some midweek events? In cycling the 3 big Grand Tours don't seem to have a problem with crowds on weekdays....Having events solely on a weekend means clashes with bigger more popular sports.
tommeke_B: - This rally would be very dangerous...Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
danon: - Any rally has a touch of danger on stand by. Dodgeball is safe though.
tommeke_B: - could cause a lot of problems...
danon: - Could, Would... Nostradamus!?
tommeke_B: - If those drunk idiots at "the tree" cause an accident it's "an accident at the rally"...
danon: - Accidents happend. It is the nature of motorsports.
A tip - Never insult human beings you do not know by calling them "idiots".
Meet (people) first, talk (about people) last!
tommeke_B: - This has nothing to do with rally...
danon: - It has more than anything to do with rally.
The Balkan Mountains in a combination with the four season weather conditions
are ment to be rally driven and are the natural habitat of the rally sport by default.
If you have ever seen a Balkan you'll get my point.
tommeke_B: - the video is mostly about drunk spectators, in some places this problem is covered with the name "atmosphere"...
danon: - It's a part of (any rally event) the game. Proove me wrong! Name an event - booze free!
As the car needs fuel so the fans need a beer or two to cheer up along the long waiting stage to start keeping the "athmosphere" flat out.
tommeke_B: - The few shots filmed on stages don't look so special...
danon: - Any given shot makes a difference.
Either special or not, it's in the eyes of the beholder!
In this particular case all but you.
tommeke_B: - Let's wait and see after the IRC Rally this year, to see what it's really worth...
danon: - For you it may worth a dime, for others - a dream come true!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ChwW...layer_embedded
Bulgaria had a WRC round two years ago, which had some nice roads, but it was hardly groundbreaking.
That was completely different event around Borovets.
I know, but it proves Bulgaria is out of consideration for a while. I remember it wasn't a hugely succesful excersize.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek