Driver and Donkey of the British GP

Maldonado should have got a back of the grid for the next race

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Alvaro Bautista will be put to the back of the Sachsenring MotoGP grid as a
punishment for taking Jorge Lorenzo out of the Dutch TT.

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Drivers: Webber, Alonso

Donkeys: Rosberg; Hamilton Button Diresta

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Originally Posted by SlowSon

Drivers: Webber, Alonso

Donkeys: Rosberg; Hamilton Button Diresta

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I'm not sure what Di Resta did wrong. He was caught up in the sort of opening lap rough and tumble that we see in almost every race, and was unlucky to pick up a puncture.

Driver: Webber
Honorable Mention: Alonso, Gosjean, Massa
Donkey: Schumacher

This is a fantastic high speed track with many opportunities for a clean pass without DRS. Overall, the race its was fantastic. There was a lot of action in the beginning. I was kind of hoping to see Webber take the fight to Alonso, but by mid-race I was confident that Alonso was going win. And look how it changed in the last five laps of the race. I am impressed with how Webber meticulously stayed in pursuit of Alonso and saved his best for the last few laps of the race.

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Originally Posted by Dave B

I'm not sure what Di Resta did wrong. He was caught up in the sort of opening lap rough and tumble that we see in almost every race, and was unlucky to pick up a puncture.

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I'm unsure what Button, Hamilton or Rosberg did either. They just had bad cars.

My donkey unsurprisingly - Maldonado. He is donkey of the year, no doubt. A complete handicap driver.

Drivers of the race - Alonso, Webber and Grosjean. Schumacher had a good outing to passing Hamilton with a few laps remaining, proving there is life in the old fox yet.

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Originally Posted by i_max2k2

Donkey - Alonso, used up his tyres much more then he should have had,

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I think Alonso did very well actually. Clearly, those that started on the hard tyre were at a disadvantage, but to only lose one place on fading tyres is not a big issue. Consistency is going to win the championship this year, and thus far, Alonso is streets ahead in that dept.

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

since Pastor has had some recent events with questionable maneouvres , he gets punked again when Perez has a mic in his face .

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Oh dear oh dear - you didn't it see it like that last year when a driver had some recent events with questionable maneouvres

Nontheless, Henners is spot on, even if your opinions from driver to driver are biased, you are entitled to them! :p

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

Sucks to be Pastor right now , with everyone piling on .

So , all you guys just want him to roll over and let Sergio punk him into giving up the line ?
Pah !

Have a look at the incident again .
Neither driver gave way , and they ended up trying to take up the same space .
It's not as if Sergio didn't know he was there .
And , it should be pretty damned obvious that Sergio knew that Pastor would not give up the place easily , since he's complaining about his reputation here .

He went outside .
He knew the risk .
He knew he was going into a corner with a car beside him .
He knew who was in that car .

How do you say "Cry me a river" in Spanish ?

Maybe Pastor should get some stick over incidents in the past , but not this time .
That was a racing incident .

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Largely agree with this - maybe Maldonado should have allowed a little more for the cold tyres that he was on, but he knew it was important to keep Perez behind while he got them fully up to speed. If you compare it with the Maldonado Raikkonen incident, Maldonado did exactly the same (except didn't lose the rear), and Kimi was forced to go off track, but no-one is complaining about that as far as I know.

The Monaco incident was definitely a bad one and should have been penalised much more heavily (and he has form withthe same thing on Hamilton in Spa), but in Valencia he was slightly in the wrong but the car wouldn't turn as the plank was on the kerb. Try imagining this one with Hamilton on the outside overtaking Maldonado in Valencia, would he have done any different? I doubt it. Button, Alonso, possibly Vettel might have as they take a longer view.

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Originally Posted by Dave B

Some levelled the same accusation at Hamilton in Valencia: why get involved with Maldonado when his reputation as a serial crasher precedes him?

The trouble with that is you're condoning bad behaviour. If nobody stands up to Pastor he'll eventually be able to simply breeze past rivals too afraid to defend their positions for fear of being nerfed off the track. Now Senna was a master when it came to intimidating his opponents, and Schumacher was similarly ruthless back in his day, but to a large extent they earned their reputation by being hard but fair - not simply a loose cannon.

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Not condoning bad behaviour either, but Maldonado is suffering for making iffy descisions that turn out as
bad ones.

Interesting you quote Senna and Schumacher as being hard but fair - both were entirely ruthless (and totally morally wrong), in the way they won world championships - Senna deliberately in crashing into Prost in Japan, and Schumacher in crashing into Damon Hill in Australia - both totally stank but the FIA did nothing.

Senna has some argument in the way that the FIA bent for Prost the year before, but Schumacher even tried the same on Villeneuve but failed.

Maybe Pastor is just looking to attract the attention of BTCC team bosses........ :)

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Originally Posted by Dave B

I'm not sure what Di Resta did wrong. He was caught up in the sort of opening lap rough and tumble that we see in almost every race, and was unlucky to pick up a puncture.

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significantly slower than his teammate in home race