This is stupid, I have really had enough of this situation. Move on and get a real name already
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This is stupid, I have really had enough of this situation. Move on and get a real name already
That PR message was the equivalent of watching a company have a nervous breakdown live, on Facebook!
As for who is at faults, I can't really blame the Enstone team, nor Genii Capital for anything. Group Lotus on the other hand, with their pathetic playboy CEO, is something else. Pity, cause I actually liked their road cars before this clown became their CEO.
Meanwhile in Ethiopa, countless children die every day from famine.
Total non-sequitur. Even if Lotus shut down tomorrow and every person in the company donated every penny they've ever earned to famine relief, what exactly would change?Quote:
Originally Posted by 52Paddy
I'm just trying to illustrate how such a trivial matter as a name can get so far out of hand and cost people millions. I know there's more to it than that but a lot of the issues are concerned with the labelling of a team, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave B
I hope you didn't find my comment provocative but I do hate it when bureaucratic-esque issues like this reach significantly ludicrous heights.
lotus needs to step up and do more than sponsor the renault car. they need to act and be a CONSTRUCTOR! bahar et. al got jealous when they saw they missed a marketing opportunity that tony fernandes saw and acted on. tony is the man, who got sh*t on by the other powers that be. but he is a business man, and racing enthusiast who also saw the opportunity in caterham. a good move for caterham and for tony.
who knows what bahar is thinking; he is out of touch with the loti nation and thinks they can be and want to be ferrari fashionistas. he is wrong. letting go of the original elise design is a mistake.
it's all about money. group lotus is priming the pump with it's name - lets see if they follow through and make their own car to claim ownership of the records lotus holds.
7 constructors championships!
6 drivers championships!
one indy 500 win!
amazing drivers including andretti
numerous success with formula 2, formula ford, formula jr.
indeed lotus does rule, but not with the current clowns.
down with danny boy bahar!
go caterham F1!
go raikkonen!
The only thing that would result in is that they would reproduce even faster there and because the average IQ there is about 40, then it would be up to us to help them again and again when another generation is born (who will then suffer again), because they are quite clearly not capable of doing anything by themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave B
It seems that the Lotus branded engines are unlikely to be seen in Indycar for very much longer as teams switch to Honda or Chevrolet
Sad to see a company that once had a great history going this way.
Autosport is reporting that Lotus is backing Jean Alesi in a Fan Force car for the Indy 500 .Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
I certainly wish Jean well, but on the evidence of the races so far his car will not be on the pace. He's a high profile ambassador for Lotus entering the race for the first time with a rookie team but elsewhere Dragon Racing are suing Lotus (link) for what they say is "contractual fraud". Add that to the two other Indycar teams who have already dropped Lotus and the picture does not appear to be good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagwan
The good form of the "Lotus" Renault team in F1 seems to have more to do with the boys from Enstone than anything else and it just appears that this is an organisation that has promised much, got extensive coverage, painted its cars a nostalgic black & gold but has delivered little of substance.
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