Sutil will stand trial in a German court later this month

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

If your comment was directed at me , just let me say that I would be interested in finding out why Adrian is so mad , even if it was Jacques instead of Lewis who had backed out of testifying .

And , if it wasn't , I apologise , and ask why you might think Sutil was calling out a coward here .

Rather than roll your eyes , why not contribute in a more constructive way ?

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It wasn't directed at you Bagwan. I'm just generally weary of this kind of thing and have no interest in why Sutil is reportedly "mad". That's between him and Hamilton, and as we do not know the details any speculation is irrelevant and no more than tabloid-type gossip.

Hence, the only contribution I felt suitable was :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by henners88

Reading an article in the Telegraph it seems Hamilton was never formally contacted in order to appear as a witness despite several media outlets publishing stories claiming he was. Hamilton's lawyer took it upon himself after reading media stories, to contact the judge suggesting Lewis was more than happy to cooperate in the inquiry/case but had other engagements around the date of the trial. It makes me wonder whether a statement was requested of Lewis at all? If Sutil required support from Lewis, then why did his lawyer not contact Mr Hamilton if this story is correct? It's obvious the full details of this saga have not been made public and from the outside the trial seems incredibly disorganised. I think we can put the knives away regarding Lewis and the disparaging stories can be treated as rumour for now until the correct details have been made public.

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Given that there is CCTV footage, one wonders why it would be so important for any such witness to actually appear in front of a court, rather than making a written statement.

From James Allen :
I’m not taking sides in this one. But factually – Lux showed me the photos of him in the Shanghai hospital on his Blackberry when we were at Monaco. The wound looked horrendous. His biggest gripe was not so much how it happened but that they walked off and left him like that. If it was “an accident”, surely all the more reason to help, regardless of the row that preceded the injury?

Is this , perhaps , what Lewis wanted to avoid , having "walked off and left him like that" ?

Or , was it to do with the "row that preceded the injury" ?

I've now just read that Lewis was sitting right beside Sutil in the club .

Hard to imagine him not seeing anything from there .

This is all just too weird .

For me Sutil sounds desperate...

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

From James Allen :
I’m not taking sides in this one. But factually – Lux showed me the photos of him in the Shanghai hospital on his Blackberry when we were at Monaco. The wound looked horrendous. His biggest gripe was not so much how it happened but that they walked off and left him like that. If it was “an accident”, surely all the more reason to help, regardless of the row that preceded the injury?

Is this , perhaps , what Lewis wanted to avoid , having "walked off and left him like that" ?

Or , was it to do with the "row that preceded the injury" ?

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Bagwan, you have edited Allen's words. He actually said, in response to comments on his blog:

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His biggest gripe was not so much how it happened but that Sutil’s group walked off and left him like that.

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Rather unnecessary when copying and pasting I would have thought.

Clearly Lux now has his ego healed.

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

Bagwan, you have edited Allen's words. He actually said, in response to comments on his blog:
Rather unnecessary when copying and pasting I would have thought.

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From what I can tell, if it is true that he attacked Sutil first, then he got his ass handed to him and he couldn't take it. To be honest, once a person attacks me then it's no holds barred off as far as I'm concerned. If he got hurt in the process after initiating it then that's tough and it would be ridiculous for Sutil to get convicted of GBH if it was all self defense.

Again this is all speculation on my part. I really, really want to view that CCTV footage.

I see no reason to presume any involvement or to start Hamilton bashing over this. If he said he didn't see it then he didn't. He might have been sitting beside him with his back turned. There are plenty of reasons as to why he may not have seen the incident in question. With loud night club music something like this could be over before you even realisit has happened.

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Originally Posted by henners88

Hmmm why change the wording I wonder? The word 'they' does not indicate who is involved other than Sutil, but 'Sutils group' almost puts a spin to suggest Hamilton is part of it. Did bagwan get this quote from a third party or straight from the official blog?

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Fair point :up: Might have come 2nd or 3rd hand.

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

Bagwan, you have edited Allen's words. He actually said, in response to comments on his blog:
Rather unnecessary when copying and pasting I would have thought.

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I copied it directly from Allen's blog . I did not edit in any way .

Has he altered it since I quoted him ?
This is weird