People Power

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Oh, there is no doubt that those advocating Communism do suffer from certain delusions way beyond those on other sides of the argument, I grant you. I suppose I am referring here to the lack of recognition of the failings of the private sector when, for example, governments hand over large tracts of the public sector to it.

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Again, I'll be the first to admit that in a free market system there are winners and loosers. Obviously that means not everyone will be happy, and that things won't be comming up roses all the time. And yes some things are better done by the public sector than private. However, I believe those to be extremely few and far between, especially when the private sector is allowed to operate in a truly free market, free of restrictive government intervention. Many times when "public sector" projects are turned over to the private sector they are so riddled with rules, regulations, and oversight that they can't help but fail. Thus pushing the argument that the government can do certain things better. Anyway, we're way off topic now, sorry.

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Originally Posted by AAReagles

Funny I was going to ask the same thing about capitalism... not just for here, but globally.

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Capitalism isn't the problem per se, loose CREDIT is the root cause of the problem as I see it. Live within ones means and we are fine. Buy what one can afford on one's actual income, not what one can convince a lender they can afford.

Taking my hard earned money and giving it to others less willing to work creates as much anomosity as it solves, if not more. Why should I work to improve my situation, only to have it taken from me? I' might as well be a lazy a$$ like the next guy.

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Originally Posted by nigelred5

Capitalism isn't the problem per se, loose CREDIT is the root cause of the problem as I see it. Live within ones means and we are fine. Buy what one can afford on one's actual income, not what one can convince a lender they can afford.

Taking my hard earned money and giving it to others less willing to work creates as much anomosity as it solves, if not more. Why should I work to improve my situation, only to have it taken from me? I' might as well be a lazy a$$ like the next guy.

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Because then there would be two "lazy a$$" guys others have to support or the whole system collapses. Somebody has to work. I don't complain as long as I get a bigger share than the "lazy a$$" guy.

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Originally Posted by Eki

Because then there would be two "lazy a$$" guys others have to support or the whole system collapses. Somebody has to work. I don't complain as long as I get a bigger share than the "lazy a$$" guy.

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Wow Eki gets it! I never thought I'd say that. You've just explained why communism will never work.

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Originally Posted by AAReagles

Funny I was going to ask the same thing about capitalism... not just for here, but globally.

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The difference that Capitalism actually works.

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Originally Posted by nigelred5

Taking my hard earned money and giving it to others less willing to work creates as much anomosity as it solves, if not more. Why should I work to improve my situation, only to have it taken from me? I' might as well be a lazy a$$ like the next guy.

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Perhaps by trying to make society more equal, rather than individuals chasing wealth & consumer goods in the short term, the whole of society will ultimately benefit...?

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

Perhaps by trying to make society more equal, rather than individuals chasing wealth & consumer goods in the short term, the whole of society will ultimately benefit...?

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How does taking something from one, to give to another, benefit society in the long run?

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Originally Posted by chuck34

Again, I'll be the first to admit that in a free market system there are winners and loosers. Obviously that means not everyone will be happy, and that things won't be comming up roses all the time. And yes some things are better done by the public sector than private. However, I believe those to be extremely few and far between, especially when the private sector is allowed to operate in a truly free market, free of restrictive government intervention.

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If the private sector is allowed to operate in a truly free market, then one surely ends up with giant monopolies, and thus a situation no better — except ideologically in the eyes of those with, as I mentioned earlier, an exaggerated sense of respect for private enterprise — than it would have been in a situation where the state held sway.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

then one surely ends up with giant monopolies,

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Why?

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Originally Posted by chuck34

How does taking something from one, to give to another, benefit society in the long run?

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How does huge quantities of wealth being in the hands of a relatively few people benefit society in the long run? How does a widening gap between richest and poorest benefit society in the long run? How does an unfettered free market leading to a few companies enjoying unchallenged monopoly positions benefit society in the long run?

Many politicians on all sides of the modern political divide seem to believe that the private sector's natural altruism will fill the gap created in state involvement by the rolling-back of the state. This is deeply misguided.