F1 heading to Sky?

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21st April 2011, 12:16
BDunnell

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Originally Posted by Retro Formula 1

Third. F1 has been expanded and grown under Bernie to the global spectacle it is now. I think it rather hypocritical that the same people that slag greedy Bernie off are horrified that Murdock might replace him. WHAT THE F DID YOU EXPECT? I don't think Nelson Mandella is interested in commercial motorsport and Mother Theresa is dead.

Why hypocritical? People don't like Bernie running it, but they dislike the notion of Murdoch running it even more. Nothing hypocritical or inconsistent in that.

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Originally Posted by Retro Formula 1

Last. I pay £70 per month for a full Sky package including Movies, Sport, Broadband, Line Rental and free call nationally and internationally to any fixed line I want. That represents good value for money in my books so am not too bothered if it goes to Sky as long as the racing isn't ruined by adverts.

So you are not bothered by the influence NewsCorp wields in British society by virtue of the extent of its media ownerships?
21st April 2011, 13:05
MrJan

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

an ex vet that builds kit cars/bikes/planes/choppers

I love A....Is Born. My old man was recently made redundant and had a few weeks with nothing to do when they were showing this on Quest (or whatever Freeview channel 38 is called these days). I'd come home from work and he'd be telling me about how matey was doing his Cobra or was making a Caterham, top viewing.
21st April 2011, 13:16
wedge

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Originally Posted by DazzlaF1

According to this, it isnt

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/for...et-buy-F1.html

But 10 years ago as part of the deal for Bernie to offer a 100 year extension to 2 German TV firms, there was a promise that F1 must remain "free-to-air"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/1295708.stm

So if F1 sells the UK broadcast rights to Sky Sports, would that not be in total breach of that agreement?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13143365

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Any takeover would involve changes to the Concorde Agreement, a commercial arrangement involving the racing teams, CVC and the sport's governing body, the FIA.

This agreement says that the sport should be shown on free-to-air television where possible.

However, the current agreement runs out at the end of 2012, and the signatories are in the process of negotiating a new one.

Personally I can't see Sky show F1 exclusively. Bernie would be daft to let that happen. More likely it would be like a decade ago/German TV rights with Sky showing premium content
21st April 2011, 13:32
Mark

I believe it's possible for Sky Sports to be free to air if they so choose. Plus they have the likes of Sky3 on freeview, and Sky1 etc, which aren't free as such but they are part of most standard bundles.
21st April 2011, 13:35
Retro Formula 1

I have no ethical dilema with Sky or Murdoch. It doesn't really bother me to tell you the truth.

I'm quite happy to pay my £70 quid and feel I get a good service for my money. It's entertainment for the family and communication via Internet and Phone for £20 per week. I know some people that pay £40 per month just for their mobile phone contract but that's their choice.

Personal choice I suppose and I disregard opinions that say I shouldn't purchase the service I do for some morally debatable view of the owner.
21st April 2011, 13:58
SGWilko

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Originally Posted by Retro Formula 1

I know some people that pay £40 per month just for their mobile phone contract but that's their choice.

I have a 3 data card that I pay £40/month for. However, I get 12GB allowance per month and a Dell Laptop (not netbook) for free too!!!
21st April 2011, 14:08
BDunnell

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Originally Posted by Retro Formula 1

I have no ethical dilema with Sky or Murdoch.

With whom do you have ethical dilemmas if not Rupert Murdoch, then?
21st April 2011, 15:01
Hawkmoon

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

Selling the broadcasting rights to Sky is one thing, but allowing Murdoch to own the sport is entirely another. Should the chances of that happening increase then we can expect talks of a breakaway to resurface.

What happened to rugby league in Australia is an excellent case study in what happens when News Corp buys a sport. They took a sport with an ever increasing fan base and huge TV audience and nearly killed it in less than 5 years. The term "Super League" sends a shudder down the spines of many rugby league fans to this day. They arbitrarily decided they didn't want my team, the South Sydney Rabbitohs, in "their" competiton and kicked them out. Souths took them to court and got back in but by the time the dust had settled several other teams were dead.

People think Bernie's bad with his greed and stupid ideas. He's got nothing on what News would do to the sport.
21st April 2011, 17:22
MrJan

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Originally Posted by Mark

I believe it's possible for Sky Sports to be free to air if they so choose. Plus they have the likes of Sky3 on freeview, and Sky1 etc, which aren't free as such but they are part of most standard bundles.

Nah, Sky3 on Freeview seems to have been replaced by something called PickTV or summint
21st April 2011, 17:40
inimitablestoo

Same channel, new name. If you look at the schedule it's basically the same old Sky3 programmes, including a very poor Top Gear "rival" called Vroom Vroom

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