If Hamilton was in that Red Bull...

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Originally Posted by markabilly

not on this track, but hamilton would have shown some attempts at a pass to put FA on the defensive so as to possibly cause a mistake.

Vettel never tried.

But in the absence of a mistake for FA, the answer is not on this track, no more than webber would have passed FA when webber was behind fred


Besides vettel was still trying to figure out about the drive through rather than to worry over passing Fred

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I think vetten tried a couple of times, if memory serves me right, losing the control of his car as a result on both occasions hence his decision not to chance and bring hame as many point as possible.
PS I wonder if it was worth risk it all for a couple of extra points on a very difficult track

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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2

If an elephant was able to fit it's ar$e into the Red Bull would it have passed Alonso :?:

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Easily. With an Elephant onboard the Red Bull would have had enough downforce to be able to drive clean around the outside of Alonso in the last corner, then reach over with its trunk and blow so hard down the Ferrari's airbox its rear wheels would have come off.

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Originally Posted by Saint Devote

If Webber in the RB6 was his teammate, Mark would have beaten him on the same strategy h employed today. Hamilton is brutal on his machinery and could not have made the soft tyres last as the immaculate Webber did today.

Sweetest sight today: Hamilton breaking his car :D

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Except this "hard on tyres" thing has been shown to be utterly wrong this year. Canada proved that.

I think if McLaren had Red Bull's car they would be in the clear lead by now. Red Bull for all their engineering excellence are showing that they are still a relatively new team and can still stuff things up!

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Originally Posted by Mark

I think if McLaren had Red Bull's car they would be in the clear lead by now. Red Bull for all their engineering excellence are showing that they are still a relatively new team and can still stuff things up!

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I'll take it three steps further. Williams would win the WCC in the RB6

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Originally Posted by Tazio

I'll take it three steps further. Williams would win the WCC in the RB6

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Interesting. So you reckon that Williams still have what it takes and that it's just the car that's letting them down?

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Originally Posted by Mark

Interesting. So you reckon that Williams still have what it takes and that it's just the car that's letting them down?

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I'm going on the talent level of the drivers. I think RB, and NH could win in that car. Not by the margin that McLaren, or Ferrari would. I think the Lotus pilots could come darn close. :)

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Originally Posted by Saint Devote

Oh yeah?

Well let me remind you that the only driver THAT HAS made the best use of his car over recent seasons, when it has been as dominant as the Red Bull was today, was Jenson Button during the first half of 2009.

No other driver on the grid today, aside from Schumacher has EVER done that.

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Well, well, I had a hunch that Jenson Button was gonna get dragged into this thread, even though he has no place in a thread about overtaking, and that it was going to be you! Surprise, surprise! I'm sure you make Jenson Button and all his sane fans very proud. :p

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Originally Posted by Saint Devote

Hamilton is brutal on his machinery and could not have made the soft tyres last as the immaculate Webber did today.

Sweetest sight today: Hamilton breaking his car :D

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Hmm, do you realize that your boy got completely destroyed on pace by Hamilton this weekend? Button couldn't even make it to Q3 and qualified 12th while Hamilton with the SAME CAR qualified 5th, and was running 4th until the gearbox decided to go kaput. Be glad Lewis' Mclaren failed or it would have added much more to what was an already humiliating weekend for Button. :dozey:

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Originally Posted by Mark

I think if McLaren had Red Bull's car they would be in the clear lead by now. Red Bull for all their engineering excellence are showing that they are still a relatively new team and can still stuff things up!

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I agree. I think their biggest problem is the people in-charge of management. Stupid comments from Helmut Marko like "Webber should remember where he was 3 years ago" etc. should not be said when they're managing two volatile personalities.

The way Martin Whitmarsh is behaving right now IMO is the perfect way to manage a Formula 1 team and their two drivers.

If Hamilton was in that Red Bull he would have been this and the next year's champion by now.